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Issues & Concerns Category => 3ABN => Topic started by: Daryl Fawcett on January 27, 2008, 06:13:20 AM

Title: An Important Notice Pertaining to Discussion of Certain 3ABN Issue Types
Post by: Daryl Fawcett on January 27, 2008, 06:13:20 AM
To avoid saying and discussion things that could be in violation of Forum Rule #1, if challenged, we will need to be able to say that what we said can be documented, if necessary, at the appropriate time.

I am not saying that we must produce documentation at the time we say it, but, if challenged, that we can provide documentation at the appropriate time.

I am not saying that we need to be able to provide documentation on everything we say, as long as we clearly contain "in my opinion" in your statement.

This is how Forum Rule #1 reads:
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1 - You agree not to post any material which is knowingly false, defamatory, inaccurate, abusive, vulgar, hateful, harassing, obscene, profane, sexually oriented, threatening, invasive of a person's privacy, adult material, or otherwise in violation of any International or United States Federal law.

Fee free to discuss this here.
Title: Re: An Important Notice Pertaining to Discussion of Certain 3ABN Issue Types
Post by: Bob Pickle on January 27, 2008, 08:50:45 AM
I think the key is being able to say rather than having to say at that time.

Everyone should acquaint themselves with the basics of this area of law, and should understand that they should avoid making factual statements that are false, or being malicious.

Opinions are not defamatory.

Some may have noticed Ian (probably Cindy) over on BSDA trying to show that I have lied by claiming that I stated that there were allegations in Virginia against Tommy, but never proving that those allegations were true. If I somehow misread her post, I welcome her correction.

It is a fact that there are allegations in Virginia, and that fact is true. I have never said that the allegations in Virginia are true, and thus I am not required to prove that they are true in order to avoid being proven a liar.

If someone else has claimed someone has done such and such, you don't have to say they have done such and such. You can simply say that so and so has alleged that such and such was done.

But don't be malicious, and don't ask someone to make up some charge so that you can repeat it. If the courts of earth don't get you for it, the courts of heaven will.

(The above is not intended to be legal advice. If in doubt, ask a lawyer whom you know only tells the truth.)
Title: Re: An Important Notice Pertaining to Discussion of Certain 3ABN Issue Types
Post by: Artiste on January 27, 2008, 09:02:18 AM

(The above is not intended to be legal advice. If in doubt, ask a lawyer whom you   know only tells the truth.)

~~ 8)~~

Does this indicate naivete or just wishful thinking?

(Sorry, Bob!)


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Title: Re: An Important Notice Pertaining to Discussion of Certain 3ABN Issue Types
Post by: Artiste on January 27, 2008, 09:19:11 AM

Everyone should acquaint themselves with the basics of this area of law, and should understand that they should avoid making factual statements that are false, or being malicious.

Opinions are not defamatory.

But don't be malicious, and don't ask someone to make up some charge so that you can repeat it. If the courts of earth don't get you for it, the courts of heaven will.


I have noticed that in some forums people appear to automatically tack on "IMO" to their statements.  It doesn't seem to me that this obligatory gesture would help them.

I am wondering at what point do opinions or statements become malicious?  Some people have a naturally more inflammatory way of speaking than others...


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Title: Re: An Important Notice Pertaining to Discussion of Certain 3ABN Issue Types
Post by: Daryl Fawcett on April 18, 2008, 06:35:48 AM
I think Artiste asked a good question to which I didn't notice any reply, therefore, it merits being asked again.

At what point do opinions or statements become malicious?
Title: Re: An Important Notice Pertaining to Discussion of Certain 3ABN Issue Types
Post by: ImaAnt on April 18, 2008, 06:44:11 AM
Daryl,

Interesting question.  Have you considered taking this question to BSDA and asking Calvin, Di or Clay as I suspect they have dealt with that issue many times in the last 18 months.

Ima
Title: Re: An Important Notice Pertaining to Discussion of Certain 3ABN Issue Types
Post by: Daryl Fawcett on April 18, 2008, 06:47:12 AM
That would most likely be a good topic in itself, here, there, and also at Maritime SDA OnLine.