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Gailon Arthur Joy

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Church and State - Wall vs the public square
« on: April 13, 2008, 07:26:18 PM »

With the coming five day visit to the United States of Pope Benedict this week we must
again be watchful as we guard against initial steps to establish a National Sunday Law.
An irony is that this papacy is vigorously advancing the principals of religious freedom and
the right of conscience. These use to be defining differences between protestants and the
Holy See, and suddenly we see the vatican embrace these defining concepts as their own.
Our religious liberty department must be ecstatic!!!!

I found this Counsel to Elder AT Jones and it seems to undermine the premise currently propogated by our Religious Liberty Department that seems to subscribe to the "wall of seperation" legal theory vs the precise definition in the US Consitution that declares the
state is not to establish a state religion.

 The Bible in the Public Schools

                            Battle Creek, Michigan,
                                      May 17, 1893

Dear Will:--
     I received a Testimony from Sister White today, and I copy the following and send to you:--

Elder A. T. Jones, {SpM 8.1}

     Dear Brother: There is a subject which greatly troubles my mind: While I do not see the justice nor light in enforcing by law the bringing the Bible to be read in the public schools, yet there are some things which burden my mind in regard to our people making prominent their ideas on this point. {SpM 8.2}

     These things, I am sure, will place us in a wrong light before the world. Cautions were given me as to this point. There were some things shown me in reference to the words of Christ "Render therefore unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's and unto God the things which are God's" -- placing the matter where the church would have no right to enforce anything of a religious character upon the world. Yet in connection with this were given words of caution. If such a law should go into effect, the Lord would overrule it for good; that an argument should be placed in the hands of those who keep the Sabbath, in their favor, to stand on the Bible foundation in reference to the Sabbath of the fourth commandment; and the book which the State and Christian world have forced upon the notice of the people to be read in the schools, shall it not speak, and shall not the words be interpreted just as they read? {SpM 8.3}

    My brother, this objecting to the passing of a law to bring the Bible into the schools will work against us, those of our faith who are making so much of the Bible. A year ago there was something presented before me in reference to those things, and we shall have to use the Bible for our evidence to show the foundation of our faith. We should be exceedingly cautious in every particular lest we shut out a single ray of the light from those who are in darkness. {SpM 8.4}

     I remember particularly this point: That anything that should give the knowledge of God and Jesus Christ whom He hath sent, should not be obstructed at all. Some things I can not present in distinct lines, but enough is clear to me that I want you to be very careful on what ground you tread; for our enemies will make a decided argument against us, if we shall give them a semblance of a chance. {SpM 8.5}

     I think the law-making powers will carry their point in this particular; if not now, a short period ahead. And it is very essential that as a people in a future crisis we take the greatest care that no provocation shall be given our enemies which they will make capital of against us as a people, in the matter of opposing so good a work as the introduction of the Bible into the public schools.

                                    -9- {SpM 8.6}

     I wish I could lay my hand on something I wrote on this point at the last General Conference that I attended. But I can not bring it to light. I hope that the Lord will help us not to make a wrong move; but please be cautious on this point."


                                    (Signed) Ellen G. White. {SpM 9.1}


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