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wine as in grape juice and or fermented wine?

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Battle Creek:
This quotation by Ellen White was a surprise to me. Any comments?


--- Quote ---B has been very deficient. While in her best condition of health, his wife was not provided with a plenty of wholesome food and with proper clothing. Then, when she needed extra clothing and extra food, and that of a simple yet nutritious quality, it was not allowed her. Her system craved material to convert into blood; but he would not provide it. A moderate amount of milk and sugar, a little salt, white bread raised with yeast for a change, graham flour prepared in a variety of ways by other hands than her own, plain cake with raisins, rice pudding with raisins, prunes, and figs, occasionally, and many other dishes I might mention, would have answered the demand of appetite. If he could not obtain some of these things, a little domestic wine would have done her no injury; it would have been better for her to have it than to do without it. In some cases, even a small amount of the least hurtful meat would do less injury than to suffer strong cravings for it. {TSDF 30.5}
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Murcielago:

--- Quote from: Battle Creek on March 30, 2013, 03:10:10 PM ---This quotation by Ellen White was a surprise to me. Any comments?


--- Quote ---B has been very deficient. While in her best condition of health, his wife was not provided with a plenty of wholesome food and with proper clothing. Then, when she needed extra clothing and extra food, and that of a simple yet nutritious quality, it was not allowed her. Her system craved material to convert into blood; but he would not provide it. A moderate amount of milk and sugar, a little salt, white bread raised with yeast for a change, graham flour prepared in a variety of ways by other hands than her own, plain cake with raisins, rice pudding with raisins, prunes, and figs, occasionally, and many other dishes I might mention, would have answered the demand of appetite. If he could not obtain some of these things, a little domestic wine would have done her no injury; it would have been better for her to have it than to do without it. In some cases, even a small amount of the least hurtful meat would do less injury than to suffer strong cravings for it. {TSDF 30.5}
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It seems that Ellen White functioned with shades of gray. She is certainly full of surprises.

Battle Creek:
Are you suggesting the possibility that she did not always mete out the correct way in black or white? How are we to mange then?

youngwarrior:
Is everyone ignoring the idea that the word wine in her day did not have the same meaning it does today?  That it meant either grape juice or fermented wine, which it did.

Murcielago:

--- Quote from: youngwarrior on April 03, 2013, 06:18:09 PM ---Is everyone ignoring the idea that the word wine in her day did not have the same meaning it does today?  That it meant either grape juice or fermented wine, which it did.

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Although that would be true of 16th/17th century king's English in which the King James Bile was written, it is not at all true of the 19th century American English in which EGW wrote. In fact her mention of "domestic wine" was an issue at the time, as foreign wine was prohibitively expensive, but domestic table wine was inexpensive, yet often just as good.

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