So, can I safely assume you believe it was all done at the cross and we can be saved IN OUR SINS?
Nope, you cannot assume such a thing because I never said such a thing. If you assumed I said such a thing you would be, unfortunately, mistaken. I said we are reconciled unto God through Christ at the cross. We must, through faith, take God at His word that He has done this. We cannot take God at His word without Jesus.
2Cr 5:18 And all things [are] of God, who
hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and
hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation;
Rom 5:10 For if, when we
were enemies, we
were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.
Hath (has) = past tense. Were = past tense. We aren't "enemies" anymore to God because we have been "reconciled"
to God through the blood of Christ. How do we accept this fact? How do we accept the fact that God has reconciled us? The same way Abraham did. By faith. We take God at His word.
Rom 4:3 For what saith the scripture? Abraham
believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness.
Abraham took God at His word.
And therefore, 1844 has no real meaning or purpose and may have never happened, therefore the investigative judgement is not a reality, therefore the founders (Edson, Bates and White) of the Seventh-day Adventist Church were all wet?
Did I say that or make any suggestion or reference to IJ? Who's the IJ for anyway, you & me or for God to be justified? Where does "judgment" begin?
And one could extrapolate that you do not believe in the Spirit of Prophecy as embodied in the Gift of Ellen G. White and the founders of Seventh-day Adventism???
One could extrapolate that indeed, but they would be wrong and mistake greatly what the SOP is saying.
Since His ascension, Christ the great Head of the church, has carried forward His work in the world by chosen ambassadors, through whom He speaks to the children of men, and ministers to their needs. The position of those who have been called of God to labor in word and doctrine for the upbuilding of His church, is one of grave responsibility. In Christ's stead they are to beseech
men and women to be reconciled to God. . . . {AG 28.2}
Mrs. White is saying the same thing I am saying, namely we have been "reconciled" to God through Jesus. We must be "reconciled" through Jesus unto God. In the process of reconciliation between two parties God has already done His reconciliation through the gift of Jesus Christ. We must do our part of being reconciled unto God through Jesus by having faith as Abraham did. We must take God at His word.
Having engaged in the work, the amazing work of our redemption, Christ determined in council with His Father to spare nothing, however costly, to withhold nothing however highly it might be estimated, that would rescue the poor sinner. He would give all heaven to this work of salvation,
of restoring the moral image of God in man . . .
To be a child of God is to be one with Christ in God, and to put forth our hands in earnest, self-sacrificing love to strengthen and bless the souls that are perishing in their sins. {SD 229.4}
One reminder alone remains: Our Redeemer will ever bear the marks of His crucifixion. Upon His wounded head, upon His side, His hands and feet, are the only traces of the cruel work that sin has wrought. Says the prophet, beholding Christ in His glory: "He had bright beams coming out of his side: and there was the hiding of his power." Habakkuk 3:4, margin. That pierced side whence flowed
the crimson stream that reconciled man to God--there is the Saviour's glory, there "the hiding of his power." . . . And the tokens of His humiliation are His highest honor; through the eternal ages the wounds of Calvary will show forth His praise and declare His power. {Mar 362.2}
Man is reconciled back to God through the blood of Christ. We must "reconcile" God back to us through the blood of Jesus Christ.
Just what is the message here???
I don't know. What message did you receive?
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