Advent Talk
General Category => General Discussions => Topic started by: reddogs on April 14, 2008, 12:28:46 PM
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What Adventist sites are good to check out, post some more Adventist Forums or Websites that you might know about, here are a few:
http://christianforums.com/f541-traditional-adventists.html
http://www.heavenlysanctuary.com/forum/index.php
http://www.maritime-sda-online.com/forums/
http://www.loudcry.org/forums/
http://adventist4truth.com/
http://thethreeam.com/
http://www.3abn.org/
http://www.hopetv.org/
http://www.amazingfacts.org/
All good Adventist sites or Adventist TV stations
http://www.whiteestate.org/
Official EGW site
http://www.whiteestate.org/books/books.asp
Book by EGW on Official EGW site
http://www.biblicalperspectives.com/
Articles by Dr. Samuele Bacchiocchi
http://www.prophecycode.com/
Prophecy Code by Doug Batchelor
http://www.whitehorsemedia.com/
Steve Wohlberg site
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Interesting list, including some sites of which I was not aware.
But how could you miss http://www.ssnet.org? Bible Study Guides are online, wich ability to click on your preferred Bible version. There is an associated email forum. This has been online longer than any of the sites you mentioned, except the http://www.whiteestate.org/
Then there is the very oldest SDA forum on the internet: http://www.sdanet.org. It's not always a friendly place for conservative Adventists, but it includes some very valuable discussion. In current discussions, look particularly for contributions by Leroy Moore. The AtIssue sub-directory has some valuable material, including whole books: http://www.sdanet.org/atissue
An excellent site to counter all the negative sites about Elle White on the internet:
http://www.ellengwhite.info/
There are others that don't impress me nearly as much, and here's one that claims to be the largest defense of Ellen White on the internet:
http://www.ellenwhitedefend.com/ (I haven't really checked this one out thoroughly.)
Another site that looks good in support of Ellen White is the one by Jud Lake:
http://ellenwhiteanswers.org/
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Here are the Adventist sites seperated by forums and a bit of description:
http://christianforums.com/f541-traditional-adventists.html
(over 200,000 members of all faiths in forum)
http://www.maritime-sda-online.com/forums
(around 1000 members in forum)
http://www.adventtalk.com/forums/
(132 members at the time of this now edited post)
http://www.heavenlysanctuary.com/forum/index.php
(No membership numbers available in forum, seems to be in the hundreds)
http://thethreeam.com/
(No membership numbers available in forum, seems to be in the hundreds)
http://www.loudcry.org/forums/
(No membership numbers available in forum, seems to be in the hundreds)
http://www.christians-discuss.com/forum/index.php
(No membership numbers available in forum, its brand new)
http://adventist4truth.com/
(No membership numbers available in forum)
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/seventh-day-adventist
(No membership numbers available in forum)
Thats all the forums I know
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http://www.3abn.org/
(3ABN Adventist site)
http://www.hopetv.org/
(Family friendly television network Adventist site)
http://www.amazingfacts.org/
http://www.SabbathTruth.com
http://www.TruthAboutDeath.com
http://www.HellTruth.com
http://www.BibleUniverse.com
http://www.BibleProphecyTruth.com
http://www.MostAmazingProphecies.com
http://www.FinalEvents.com
http://www.MaryTruth.com
http://www.EmpoweredChurch.com
http://www.TenCommandmentFacts.com
http://www.IsHeaven4Real.com
http://www.CosmicConflictProject.com
http://www.DougBatchelor.com
( Pastor Doug Batchelor sites)
http://www.teachinghearts.com
http://www.bibleuniverse.com
http://www.sabbathpulpit.com
http://www.biblelight.net Michael Scheifler's site.
(Defense on our Historic interpretations of prophecy)
http://www.sdadefend.com
(Vince Ferrell's site. Site on SOP and our pillar doctrines.)
http://www.amazingdiscoveries.org
Dr. Walter Veith site. Powerful series on the endtime issues (Total Onslaught) and the creation vs evolution (Genesis Conflict).
http://www.whiteestate.org/
(Official EGW site)
http://www.whiteestate.org/books/books.asp
(Books by EGW on Official EGW site)
http://www.ellengwhite.info/
(EGW information site)
http://www.ellenwhitedefend.com/
(EGW site which defends her)
http://ellenwhiteanswers.org/
(EGW site by by Jud Lake)
http://www.biblicalperspectives.com/
Articles by Dr. Samuele Bacchiocchi
http://www.prophecycode.com/
Prophecy Code by Doug Batchelor
http://www.whitehorsemedia.com/
Steve Wohlberg site
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Edited to insert number of members at Advent Talk at the time of this edit.
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I edited the previous post to edit in the present number of members here at the time of that edited post.
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Here is also an interesting site (by my brother-in-law, a retired pastor)
http://www.amazingjoy.com/
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Here is also an interesting site (by my brother-in-law, a retired pastor)
http://www.amazingjoy.com/
Yes, I am rather biased to the name and the message.
Gailon Arthur Joy
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Whats wrong with the name.......
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I think he means he is biased for it, rather than biased against it.
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Here, Here!!! Love the name and the message is indisputable.
Out of curiosity, is reddog a through-back to the cold war or does it have some other ethereal meaning?
Gailon Arthur Joy
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I breed Chow Chows, so most were red, although I've gotten into the sandy/white Chows, but 'sandydog' just doesnt appeal to me somehow..........
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I have a friend that breads English Mastiffs and Dachsunds...now there is a dichotomy. And then throw in the Maine Coon cats and they make nearly $100 k a year.
Gailon Arthur Joy
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I used to sell them but when I got the current male Chow 'Simba', he has such a loving and calm demeaner with a great personality and good instincts, that I gave away the last litters to all the neighbors in nearby farms and to friends. So now I go and visit the 'offspring' and the neighbors or friends at the same time, they even named theirs after the father so there are many 'Simba Jr.' or variations......
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Here is the latest list of Adventist sites seperated by forums and a bit of description:
http://christianforums.com/f541-traditional-adventists.html
(over 200,000 members of all faiths in forum)
http://www.maritime-sda-online.com/forums
(around 1000 members in forum)
http://clubadventist.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/ubb/cfrm
(No membership numbers available in forum, seems to be in the hundreds)
http://www.adventtalk.com/forums/
(137 members at the time of this now edited post)
http://www.heavenlysanctuary.com/forum/index.php
(No membership numbers available in forum, seems to be in the hundreds)
http://thethreeam.com/
(No membership numbers available in forum, seems to be in the hundreds)
http://www.loudcry.org/forums/
(No membership numbers available in forum, seems to be in the hundreds)
http://www.christians-discuss.com/forum/index.php
(No membership numbers available in forum, its brand new)
http://adventist4truth.com/
(No membership numbers available in forum)
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/seventh-day-adventist
(No membership numbers available in forum)
Thats all the forums I know
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http://www.3abn.org/
(3ABN Adventist site)
http://www.hopetv.org/
(Family friendly television network Adventist site)
http://www.amazingfacts.org/
http://www.SabbathTruth.com
http://www.TruthAboutDeath.com
http://www.HellTruth.com
http://www.BibleUniverse.com
http://www.BibleProphecyTruth.com
http://www.MostAmazingProphecies.com
http://www.FinalEvents.com
http://www.MaryTruth.com
http://www.EmpoweredChurch.com
http://www.TenCommandmentFacts.com
http://www.IsHeaven4Real.com
http://www.CosmicConflictProject.com
http://www.DougBatchelor.com
( Pastor Doug Batchelor sites)
http://www.teachinghearts.com
http://www.bibleuniverse.com
http://www.sabbathpulpit.com
http://ourworld.cs.com/adventistalert/
http://www.biblelight.net Michael Scheifler's site.
(Defense on our Historic interpretations of prophecy)
http://www.sdadefend.com
(Vince Ferrell's site. Site on SOP and our pillar doctrines.)
http://www.amazingdiscoveries.org
Dr. Walter Veith site. Powerful series on the endtime issues (Total Onslaught) and the creation vs evolution (Genesis Conflict).
http://www.whiteestate.org/
(Official EGW site)
http://www.whiteestate.org/books/books.asp
(Books by EGW on Official EGW site)
http://www.ellengwhite.info/
(EGW information site)
http://www.ellenwhitedefend.com/
(EGW site which defends her)
http://ellenwhiteanswers.org/
(EGW site by by Jud Lake)
http://www.biblicalperspectives.com/
Articles by Dr. Samuele Bacchiocchi
http://www.prophecycode.com/
Prophecy Code by Doug Batchelor
http://www.whitehorsemedia.com/
Steve Wohlberg site
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This site has changed so here is the updated link..
http://christianforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=541
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I had no idea many of these web sites and forums even existed.
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I had no idea many of these web sites and forums even existed.
Have you been in hiding RedFalcon, or do you just come to life after work (your time) on Fridays? I know that people don't use the internet during work hours, so maybe you've just finished work for the week?
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TGIF. Thank God Its Friday. Time to relax from a hard week.
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clubadventist is over 2500 members with less than half of them posting. Be careful when you go there, take a friend with you so they can watch your back.
:rabbit:
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clubadventist is over 2500 members with less than half of them posting. Be careful when you go there, take a friend with you so they can watch your back.
:rabbit:
I think that I'll just stay here. It's nice and safe.
Edited for double post.
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I think that I'll just stay here. It's nice and safe.
Edited for double post.
:amen:
I think you are right!
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clubadventist is over 2500 members with less than half of them posting. Be careful when you go there, take a friend with you so they can watch your back.
:rabbit:
Clubadventist has not responded to my registration request, I saw some others with the same issue. Does anyone know if they are actually letting in any members other than those that pay...?
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Edited because I have decided not to get sucked into anything. You make your own judgements on clubadventist.
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clubadventist is over 2500 members with less than half of them posting. Be careful when you go there, take a friend with you so they can watch your back.
:rabbit:
Clubadventist has not responded to my registration request, I saw some others with the same issue. Does anyone know if they are actually letting in any members other than those that pay...?
Clubadventist???????? Who are they???? Don't seem to have them on my list of places I want to visit. I guess the word 'club' turns me off. :dunno:
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clubadventist is over 2500 members with less than half of them posting. Be careful when you go there, take a friend with you so they can watch your back.
:rabbit:
Clubadventist has not responded to my registration request, I saw some others with the same issue. Does anyone know if they are actually letting in any members other than those that pay...?
Clubadventist???????? Who are they???? Don't seem to have them on my list of places I want to visit. I guess the word 'club' turns me off. :dunno:
Yes, I had the same thought...
Here is their link:
http://clubadventist.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/forum_summary
Here is what they have on their main page....
".....Welcome with open arms fellow believers who don’t see things the way you do. And don’t jump all over them every time they do or say something you don’t agree with – even when it seems that they are strong on opinions but weak in the faith department. Remember, they have their own history to deal with. Treat them gently. Romans 14.1: The Message..."
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clubadventist is over 2500 members with less than half of them posting. Be careful when you go there, take a friend with you so they can watch your back.
:rabbit:
Clubadventist has not responded to my registration request, I saw some others with the same issue. Does anyone know if they are actually letting in any members other than those that pay...?
Clubadventist???????? Who are they???? Don't seem to have them on my list of places I want to visit. I guess the word 'club' turns me off. :dunno:
Yes, I had the same thought...
Here is their link:
http://clubadventist.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/forum_summary
Here is what they have on their main page....
".....Welcome with open arms fellow believers who don’t see things the way you do. And don’t jump all over them every time they do or say something you don’t agree with – even when it seems that they are strong on opinions but weak in the faith department. Remember, they have their own history to deal with. Treat them gently. Romans 14.1: The Message..."
I can't see myself rushing to go there either. I'll stay where there are friends. :horse:
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clubadventist is over 2500 members with less than half of them posting. Be careful when you go there, take a friend with you so they can watch your back.
:rabbit:
Clubadventist has not responded to my registration request, I saw some others with the same issue. Does anyone know if they are actually letting in any members other than those that pay...?
If you are on the list of banned you won't be hearing. Otherwise there is no fee to register. The fee is to be able to enter the private forums such as Natter Matters. This is for the slams,"sensitive issues" and the knock down-drag outs.
It does have a large membership in numbers, but regular posters number 30?? or less on a good day.
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clubadventist is over 2500 members with less than half of them posting. Be careful when you go there, take a friend with you so they can watch your back.
:rabbit:
Clubadventist has not responded to my registration request, I saw some others with the same issue. Does anyone know if they are actually letting in any members other than those that pay...?
If you are on the list of banned you won't be hearing. Otherwise there is no fee to register. The fee is to be able to enter the private forums such as Natter Matters. This is for the slams,"sensitive issues" and the knock down-drag outs.
It does have a large membership in numbers, but regular posters number 30?? or less on a good day.
But it seems its only a temporary for 30 days, here below is what it said once I figured out how to get in with a different name, I must have logged in before using my regular 'reddogs' name and it ran out...
"30 days FREE then only $3.50 per month for FULL membership. Cancel at any time. "
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clubadventist is over 2500 members with less than half of them posting. Be careful when you go there, take a friend with you so they can watch your back.
:rabbit:
Clubadventist has not responded to my registration request, I saw some others with the same issue. Does anyone know if they are actually letting in any members other than those that pay...?
If you are on the list of banned you won't be hearing. Otherwise there is no fee to register. The fee is to be able to enter the private forums such as Natter Matters. This is for the slams,"sensitive issues" and the knock down-drag outs.
It does have a large membership in numbers, but regular posters number 30?? or less on a good day.
But it seems its only a temporary for 30 days, here below is what it said once I figured out how to get in with a different name, I must have logged in before using my regular 'reddogs' name and it ran out...
"30 days FREE then only $3.50 per month for FULL membership. Cancel at any time. "
Full membership means the ability to get into Natter Matters and the other private forums.
But I am assumiimg you already knew this as you said...... I must have logged in before using my regular 'reddogs' name and it ran out...
Club Adventists does extensive advertising or as much as donations allow. Probably does not need this type of passive advertising
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Bonnie, I am sure he is quite an active member when he goes there. I knew someone over there also that raised 'red dogs' as well. Strange that the same type of name is on both forums. But, that is just me. I have quite a sharp mind when I want to use it. Lately, I use it quite often. The more information one can get and remember, the better off they really are. The better they can stand up and be proud of who they are. :thumbsup: :rabbit:
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Bonnie, I am sure he is quite an active member when he goes there. I knew someone over there also that raised 'red dogs' as well. Strange that the same type of name is on both forums. But, that is just me. I have quite a sharp mind when I want to use it. Lately, I use it quite often. The more information one can get and remember, the better off they really are. The better they can stand up and be proud of who they are. :thumbsup: :rabbit:
This whole thing is getting downright silly, to say nothing of pathetic, IMO.
Registration on the other forum is pretty straight forward and not at all confusing as presented. It is also pretty clear if you have been banned for a time or permanently, your registration will not be accepted. Of course you can register under another name which many do. Some have had up to ten different screen names, carrying on conversations with themselves. The straight forward approach always works the best anywhere.
Why anyone is so afraid to be known is beyond me. Even if it is under one fictitious screen name a poster becomes known for. To use a variety of names giving the impression of various people is more than suspect to me. I have noticed some here, registering under a different screen name, but step forward and say, My screen Name on another forum was such and such. Letting all know who they are and not presenting themselves as someone new.
It is well known that there is controversy and resentment towards adventtalk for allowing facts and opinions to be presented concerning 3ABN. Instead of all the subterfuge and pretense that the less than subtle jabs are taken in good clean fun, where is the backbone.
Instead of pretending ,Why not out with it,Put On Your Big Boy/Girl Pants. If an opinion is worth having, it is worth owning up to it. Quit pretending you are so horrified at what you have judged gossip and rumormongering" while doing same with less facts. Less facts than most here present to back up their opinion or statement .
If there is quality of content to a forum, it will grow without the malicious humor and the constant maliciousness brought up in numerous topics.
This thread started I suspect for the sole reason of ending where it is at. A "passive" plug for C/A. Started by one, C/A introduced by same, questions on registering and suppossed confusion in doing so by same. Yet an admission that he was a member there and really should know.
What I find ironic is that here, C/A name can be brought up without fear of competition,yet on C/A if you even try to type in adventtalk,it changes it when you hit submit to ClubAdventist. You need to sperate the words to advent talk.
So how about a little more direct approach. If you change screen names let it be known, do not use a different screen name and different set of values based on the forum you are on.
This is more than silly .If an opinion has any value whatsoever, Stand behind it. Otherwise this is nothing more than a game and your opinions have no more value than the time it takes to post
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You know, I have a friend in real life that has a problem with doing just as you have described. Not only that but when you have done something this friend has always done something bigger, better or more outlandish than what I have done. Needless to say, I don't believe a word this friend says as far as things like that. Though, I know that if I need something, this friend is there to help me out. :thumbsup: I would trust him with anything except for telling the truth about what this friend has or has not done with their life. When my friend describes their past history, I sum it up as hearsay. Once I've been lied to that is most all it takes for me to never trust them with anything other than a friendship. I do have other friends and family that I would trust with all my soul and even beyond. But that takes awhile before that happens. One must show the real, honest side of themselves before anything other than friendship occurs.
Sorry Bonnie......... gotta do it!!
:hot: :rabbit: ;D
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That is one hyper rabbit. I am :praying: his battery wears down soon
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Ohhhhhhh Bonnie, I hate to say this but............
This :rabbit: is running off of energizer batteries! :ROFL: :ROFL:
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Bonnie, I am sure he is quite an active member when he goes there. I knew someone over there also that raised 'red dogs' as well. Strange that the same type of name is on both forums. But, that is just me. I have quite a sharp mind when I want to use it. Lately, I use it quite often. The more information one can get and remember, the better off they really are. The better they can stand up and be proud of who they are. :thumbsup: :rabbit:
If I remember I signed up for it when I first found it, but then couldnt get in some time later, so it may have been the 30 days had passed and I didnt notice/remember....
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Anyway, they had even more sites listed there...here they are:
Divisions
East-Central Africa http://www.ecd.adventist.org
Euro-Africa http://www.euroafrica.org
Euro-Asia http://www.adventist.ru
http://www.tagnet.org/esd (English)
Inter-American http://www.interamerica.org
North American northamerica.adventist.org
Northern Asia-Pacific http://www.nsdadventist.org
South American http://www.adventista.org.br
South Pacific http://www.adventist.org.au
Southern Africa-Indian Ocean http://www.sidadventist.org
Southern Asia rjohn@sud-adventist.org
Southern Asia-Pacific http://www.ssd.org
Trans-European http://www.ted-adventist.org
West-Central Africa mailroom@wad-adventist.org
Seventh-day Adventists in Europe
Albania http://www.al-adventiste.org
Austria http://www.sta.at
Belgium http://www.adventist.be
Bulgaria http://www.sdabg.org
Croatia http://www.adventisti.hr
Cyprus http://www.adventistmeu.org
Czech Republic http://www.casd.cz
Denmark http://www.adventist.dk
Estonia http://www.advent.ee
Finland http://www.sdafin.org
France http://www.adventiste.org
Germany http://www.adventisten.de
Greece http://www.adventist.gr
Hungary http://www.adventista.hu
Iceland http://www.sda.is
Ireland http://www.adventist.ie
Israel http://www.sdaisrael.org
Italy http://www.avventisti.org
Latvia http://www.tagnet.org/latvia
Lithuania http://www.adventistu.baznica.lv
Malta http://www.adventist.org.mt
Netherlands http://www.adventist.nl
Norway http://www.adventist.no
Poland http://www.advent.pl
Portugal http://www.adventistas.org.pt
Romania http://www.adventist.ro
Russia http://www.adventist.ru
Serbia & Montenegro http://www.adventisti.org.yu
Slovakia http://www.casd.sk
Slovenia http://www.adventisti.si
Spain http://www.unionadventista.es
Sweden http://www.adventist.se
Switzerland http://www.stanet.ch
United Kingdom http://www.adventist.org.uk
Other organizations
Adventist Development and Relief Agency (ADRA International) http://www.adra.org
Adventist Development and Relief Agency (ADRA EUD) adra.euroafrica.org
Adventist Health System http://www.ahss.org
Adventist-laymen's Services and Industries (ASI International) http://www.asiministries.org
Adventist-laymen's Services and Industries (ASI Europe) http://www.asi-europe.org
Adventist Risk Management http://www.adventrm.com
Global Mission http://www.global-mission.org
Media
Adventist Media Center http://www.adventistmedia.org
Adventist News Network news.adventist.org
Adventist Television Network http://www.adventist.tv
Adventist World Radio http://www.awr.org
Adventistischer Pressedienst APD, Switzerland http://www.stanet.ch/apd
Adventistischer PressEdienst APD, Germany http://www.adventisten.de/apd
Centro de Producciones Multimedia, Spain http://www.cpm-es.com
Hope Channel http://www.hopetv.org
Hope Channel, Germany office
It Is Written http://www.hopechannel.de
http://www.lavoz.org
SDANet http://www.sdanet.org
Staonline http://www.staonline.info
Voice of Prophecy http://www.vop.com
Publishing
Adventist Book Center http://www.adventistbookcenter.com
Adventist Review http://www.adventistreview.org
Advent-Orion Publishing House, Czech Rep. http://www.adventorion.cz
Advent-Orion Publishing House, Slovakia http://www.adventorion.sk
Advent-Verlag, Germany http://www.advent-verlag.de
Advent-Verlag Krattigen, Switzerland http://www.adventverlag.ch
Casa de Editură "Viaţă şi Sănătate", Romania http://www.viatasisanatate.ro
Editions vie et sant�, France http://www.viesante.com
Editorial Safeliz, Spain http://www.safeliz.com
Edizioni A.D.V., Italy http://www.edizioniadv.it
Nov Zhivot, Bulgaria http://www.newlife-bg.com
Saatkorn-Verlag, Germany http://www.saatkorn-verlag.de
Pacific Press Publishing Association http://www.pacificpress.com
Review and Herald Publishing Association http://www.rhpa.org
Wegweiser-Verlag G.m.b.H. http://www.wegweiser-verlag.at
Educational Institutions
Andrews University, Michigan, USA http://www.andrews.edu
Atlantic Union College, USA http://www.atlanticuc.edu
Canadian University College http://www.rtt.ab.ca/rtt/cuc
Campus Adventista de Sagunto, Spain http://www.campusadventista.org
Campus adventiste du Salève (Collonges), France http://www.campusadventiste.edu
Columbia Union College, USA http://www.cuc.edu
Friedensau Adventist University, Germany http://www.thh-friedensau.de
Griggs University, USA http://www.griggs.edu
Home Study International http://www.hsi.edu
Institutul Teologic Adventist Cernica, Romania http://www.institutadventist.ro
LaSierra University, USA http://www.lasierra.edu
Loma Linda University and Loma Linda Medical Center, USA http://www.llu.edu
Marienhoehe College, Germany http://www.marienhoehe
Montemorelos University, Mexico http://www.umontemorelos.edu.mx
Newbold College, England http://www.newbold.ac.uk
Oakwood College, USA http://www.oakwood.edu
Pacific Union College, USA http://www.puc.edu
Sazava Theological Seminary, Czech Republic ts.casd.cz
Seminar Schloss Bogenhofen, Austria http://www.bogenhofen.at
Southern Adventist University, USA http://www.southern.edu
Southwestern Adventist University, USA http://www.swac.edu
Union College, USA http://www.ucollege.edu
Villa Aurora, Italy http://www.avventisti.org/servizi/villa_aurora.htm
Walla Walla College, USA http://www.wwc.edu
Other links
Archives for SDA History in Europe, Section Collonges archivesadventistes.hautetfort.com
AMICUS (EUD) amicus.euroafrica.org
Bible Information Online http://www.bibleinfo.com
Biblical Research Institute http://www.biblicalresearch.gc.adventist.org
Christian Record Services (ministry to the blind)
http://www.christianrecord.org
Ellen G. White Estate http://www.whiteestate.org
Ellen G. White Research Center, Collonges Branch crew.hautetfort.com
Geoscience Research Institute http://www.grisda.org
Geoscience Research Institute, Collonges Branch http://www.grisda.org
José Figols Youth Center http://www.jfcentre.org
Library (Collonges)
http://www.bibavaucher.net
Library (Friedensau) http://www.thh-friedensau.de/bibliothek
Seventh-day Adventist Digital Hymnal http://www.tagnet.org/digitalhymnal
Seventh-day Adventist Online Yearbook
http://www.adventistyearbook.org
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Didn't they have any other SDA forums listed there?
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Didn't they have any other SDA forums listed there?
No they did not, so I gave them a list...... ;D
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I wonder how long that list will exist there?
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I wonder how long that list will exist there?
They seemed to be fine with it....
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This whole thing is getting downright silly, to say nothing of pathetic, IMO.
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It is well known that there is controversy and resentment towards adventtalk for allowing facts and opinions to be presented concerning 3ABN. Instead of all the subterfuge and pretense that the less than subtle jabs are taken in good clean fun, where is the backbone.
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What I find ironic is that here, C/A name can be brought up without fear of competition,yet on C/A if you even try to type in adventtalk,it changes it when you hit submit to ClubAdventist. You need to sperate the words to advent talk.
Please tell me you're joking, Bonnie!! :praying:
A script that changes "AdventTalk" to "ClubAdventist" in a poster's message is worse than censorship. It is deceptive!! (A poster may not realize that his/her post was changed.)
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This whole thing is getting downright silly, to say nothing of pathetic, IMO.
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It is well known that there is controversy and resentment towards adventtalk for allowing facts and opinions to be presented concerning 3ABN. Instead of all the subterfuge and pretense that the less than subtle jabs are taken in good clean fun, where is the backbone.
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What I find ironic is that here, C/A name can be brought up without fear of competition,yet on C/A if you even try to type in adventtalk,it changes it when you hit submit to ClubAdventist. You need to sperate the words to advent talk.
Please tell me you're joking, Bonnie!! :praying:
A script that changes "AdventTalk" to "ClubAdventist" in a poster's message is worse than censorship. It is deceptive!! (A poster may not realize that his/her post was changed.)
No joke. I first became aware of advent talk thru a pm at C/A, except I couldn't quite figure it out.
The sender told me of a new forum that looked very promising. It had been up for a bit at that time.One that appeared to be without the conflict that is asscociated with C/A. But it read, "you need to check out the new forum ClubAdventist. Strange as I was already there.
So checked back with sender and she responded the same. Between us in pm's we both kept "saying" clubadventist"
Finally figured out if we put a couple of spaces between advent--talk it would read as written.
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Please tell me you're joking, Bonnie!! :praying:
A script that changes "AdventTalk" to "ClubAdventist" in a poster's message is worse than censorship. It is deceptive!! (A poster may not realize that his/her post was changed.)
No joke. I first became aware of advent talk thru a pm at C/A, except I couldn't quite figure it out.
The sender told me of a new forum that looked very promising. It had been up for a bit at that time.One that appeared to be without the conflict that is asscociated with C/A. But it read, "you need to check out the new forum ClubAdventist. Strange as I was already there.
So checked back with sender and she responded the same. Between us in pm's we both kept "saying" clubadventist"
Finally figured out if we put a couple of spaces between advent--talk it would read as written.
Unbelievable!! Modifying *private* messages, no less!!!! :scratch:
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Please tell me you're joking, Bonnie!! :praying:
A script that changes "AdventTalk" to "ClubAdventist" in a poster's message is worse than censorship. It is deceptive!! (A poster may not realize that his/her post was changed.)
No joke. I first became aware of advent talk thru a pm at C/A, except I couldn't quite figure it out.
The sender told me of a new forum that looked very promising. It had been up for a bit at that time.One that appeared to be without the conflict that is asscociated with C/A. But it read, "you need to check out the new forum ClubAdventist. Strange as I was already there.
So checked back with sender and she responded the same. Between us in pm's we both kept "saying" clubadventist"
Finally figured out if we put a couple of spaces between advent--talk it would read as written.
Unbelievable!! Modifying *private* messages, no less!!!! :scratch:
Kind of strange but.......
Don't know if it has been changed now
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Kind of strange but.......
Don't know if it has been changed now
Dont' know, don't really care. If no one there cares, then why should I care. As long as this forum does not do that. I am fine with it. So far it doesn't seem to be doing that. I can type in other forum names without them being censored. I guess our fine admin team do not find any reason to censor any other forum on here. :rabbit:
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Please tell me you're joking, Bonnie!! Praying
A script that changes "AdventTalk" to "ClubAdventist" in a poster's message is worse than censorship. It is deceptive!! (A poster may not realize that his/her post was changed.)
I asked a friend who is a member of that forum if this was true. He tested it and said it is not true. He said as of a week ago he and another were PMing about this forum and they had no problem linking to threads here. So I do not know what is going on. It is not true anymore in any case.
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Please tell me you're joking, Bonnie!! Praying
A script that changes "AdventTalk" to "ClubAdventist" in a poster's message is worse than censorship. It is deceptive!! (A poster may not realize that his/her post was changed.)
I asked a friend who is a member of that forum if this was true. He tested it and said it is not true. He said as of a week ago he and another were PMing about this forum and they had no problem linking to threads here. So I do not know what is going on. It is not true anymore in any case.
And... here's a knight in shining armour to defend CA is it?
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For a moderator you are supposed to be neutral. I would suggest you at least pretend to be such. I always would prefer to verify the facts before I blindly accept as truth some wild tale that seems so fantastic.
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For a moderator you are supposed to be neutral. I would suggest you at least pretend to be such. I always would prefer to verify the facts before I blindly accept as truth some wild tale that seems so fantastic.
Knight, I don't pretend anything. I have no reason to disbelieve the poster who first spoke about this situation.
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For a moderator you are supposed to be neutral. I would suggest you at least pretend to be such. I always would prefer to verify the facts before I blindly accept as truth some wild tale that seems so fantastic.
There is no question at all that it was as I said. Maybe what you have said about this friend is a wild tale and you are asking members here to accept as truth.. I have no doubt it is changed as of now. When did the change occur.
When I first mentioned it or a short time ago when it was brought up again?
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For a moderator you are supposed to be neutral. I would suggest you at least pretend to be such. I always would prefer to verify the facts before I blindly accept as truth some wild tale that seems so fantastic.
As for your inuendo....
It really isn't very good manners to make statements like this.But glad to see you back and in good form
If the party on adventtalk wishes to acknowledge a pm I sent some time ago,long before it came up publically, they have my permission to do so. I notified a party that was the case.
Rather than have you carry such a negative image of me,possibly telling some wild tale, I have a suggestion.
This seemed to bother you for some reason so why not request your friend get a confirmation from Stan that what I said was true, or a denial and that I was telling a wild tale. That way we would know that your friend is not in the wild tale business. There are others that know this to be true as well and depending on Stan's response it would all be straightened out
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I asked a friend who is a member of that forum if this was true. He tested it and said it is not true. He said as of a week ago he and another were PMing about this forum and they had no problem linking to threads here. So I do not know what is going on. It is not true anymore in any case.
For a moderator you are supposed to be neutral. I would suggest you at least pretend to be such. I always would prefer to verify the
In re-reading this I don't think I am out of line to request proof or something more than "I have a friend" and then go on to blatantly insinuate what I said was a wild tale.
I would believe that it is no longer the case,but have not checked to make sure. That is no excuse to go from.....So I do not know what is going on. It is not true anymore in any case. to......I blindly accept as truth some wild tale that seems so fantastic.
I did not insult this man and have had no contact with him, at least under this name to warrant this. Much of C/A conduct seems to be setting up membership rights here. Daryl is the one that decides membership and it is open,but many of us had hoped we had left this type of stuff behind.
There is no EXCUSE coming into this topic going from ,I do not know what is going on to wild tales etc
Dwight, please confirm from Stan if what I said was true or some wild tale. Not whether it is true today, but was it as I said it was previously. Then post it here, or maybe in forum concerns.
If Stan denies this was so at any time,then we can go from there to e-mails from others to see whether your out of the blue accusation, without proof ,will hold up.
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I asked a friend who is a member of that forum if this was true. He tested it and said it is not true. He said as of a week ago he and another were PMing about this forum and they had no problem linking to threads here. So I do not know what is going on. It is not true anymore in any case.
For a moderator you are supposed to be neutral. I would suggest you at least pretend to be such. I always would prefer to verify the
In re-reading this I don't think I am out of line to request proof or something more than "I have a friend" and then go on to blatantly insinuate what I said was a wild tale.
I would believe that it is no longer the case,but have not checked to make sure. That is no excuse to go from.....So I do not know what is going on. It is not true anymore in any case. to......I blindly accept as truth some wild tale that seems so fantastic.
I did not insult this man and have had no contact with him, at least under this name to warrant this. Much of C/A conduct seems to be setting up membership rights here. Daryl is the one that decides membership and it is open,but many of us had hoped we had left this type of stuff behind. There is no EXCUSE coming into this topic going from ,I do not know what is going on to wild tales etc
Dwight, please confirm from Stan if what I said was true or some wild tale. Not whether it is true today, but was it as I said it was previously. Then post it here, or maybe in forum concerns.
If Stan denies this was so at any time,then we can go from there to e-mails from others to see whether your out of the blue accusation, without proof ,will hold up.
ADMIN HAT ON
PLEASE LEAVE C/A WHERE IT BELONGS. OVER AT C/A. This is entirely different Forum to C/A. We have no intention of AT deteriorating to the state of other Forums. An apology is in order to Bonnie, as well as the explanation she asked for. Deliver the apology and explanation required and then let C/A drop please.
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That is very interesting, Knight! Are you saying then, that moderators are not supposed to have opinions? Or just not share them? How does that work?
For a moderator you are supposed to be neutral. I would suggest you at least pretend to be such. I always would prefer to verify the facts before I blindly accept as truth some wild tale that seems so fantastic.
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Please tell me you're joking, Bonnie!! Praying
A script that changes "AdventTalk" to "ClubAdventist" in a poster's message is worse than censorship. It is deceptive!! (A poster may not realize that his/her post was changed.)
I asked a friend who is a member of that forum if this was true. He tested it and said it is not true. He said as of a week ago he and another were PMing about this forum and they had no problem linking to threads here. So I do not know what is going on. It is not true anymore in any case.
Pm I received on C/A, name deleted. You can see clubadventist in quotes. One of the more well known decided to accuse me AGAIN thru pm there. He decided I was Patsy on adventtalk, but when he typed that in and hit submit it changed to clubadventist. I was not sure what he was talking about defending Bonnie because at the time I had never been to adventtalk. Then when I asked him what he was talking about me defending Bonnie on clubadventist he said I should check out a place called advent talk without the space. So, I checked it out, it seemed to me Patsy tried to give her a hard time most of the time. I asked him why he would think I was Patsy on clubadventist and it did it again.
There is more, and I will furnish the unedited version of this e-mail to the admin here if they want to.
"Knight" owes an apology for this stunt being pulled again and again. Or maybe just being removed would help keep the abuse down.
BTW, to the person that wrote this, when I defend Bonnie I do it in my regular user name.
LOL. Now you are getting paranoid. No I am not Dan. Just be aware that I have MANY accounts. I have used them from time to time to talk to you and Bonnie but neither of you knows who I am.
Oh by the way I know you are Patsy over on [clubadventist].com
Only one person would defend Bonnie like that and who has a son in Oregon.
I was to trusting of people like you and Bonnie. I should have NEVER used my real name on this forum EVER or let it be known I worked for the church.
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LOL. Now you are getting paranoid. No I am not Dan. Just be aware that I have MANY accounts. I have used them from time to time to talk to you and Bonnie but neither of you knows who I am.
Oh by the way I know you are Patsy over on [clubadventist].com
Only one person would defend Bonnie like that and who has a son in Oregon.
I was to trusting of people like you and Bonnie. I should have NEVER used my real name on this forum EVER or let it be known I worked for the church.
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Quite a damning PM. Pity the person didn't get a life and find more to do with their time. I won't comment on the number of different personalities! :oops: Nor will I say more about you working for the Church, but I've just got one question? Did you ever get reprimanded for using the internet for purposes other than your work, while you were at work?
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For a moderator you are supposed to be neutral. I would suggest you at least pretend to be such. I always would prefer to verify the facts before I blindly accept as truth some wild tale that seems so fantastic.
Knight, I don't pretend anything. I have no reason to disbelieve the poster who first spoke about this situation.
ADMIN HAT ON
Knight, as stated previously from ADMIN, please leave your references to C/A over there. Do NOT drag mud over here.
This applies to all posts about C/A.
ADMIN HAT OFF.
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came across a new Adventist site that seems very nice..
http://www.thenarrowway.yourlivecommunity.com/default.asp
Here is the updated list of Adventist sites that I have accumalated with a bit of description:
http://www.3abn.org/
(3ABN Adventist site)
http://www.hopetv.org/
(Family friendly television network Adventist site)
http://www.amazingfacts.org/
http://www.SabbathTruth.com
http://www.TruthAboutDeath.com
http://www.HellTruth.com
http://www.BibleUniverse.com
http://www.BibleProphecyTruth.com
http://www.MostAmazingProphecies.com
http://www.FinalEvents.com
http://www.MaryTruth.com
http://www.EmpoweredChurch.com
http://www.TenCommandmentFacts.com
http://www.IsHeaven4Real.com
http://www.CosmicConflictProject.com
http://www.DougBatchelor.com
( Pastor Doug Batchelor sites)
http://www.biblelight.net Michael Scheifler's site.
(Defense on our Historic interpretations of prophecy)
http://www.sdadefend.com
(Vince Ferrell's site. Site on SOP and our pillar doctrines.)
http://www.amazingdiscoveries.org
Dr. Walter Veith site. Powerful series on the endtime issues (Total Onslaught) and the creation vs evolution (Genesis Conflict).
http://www.whiteestate.org/
(Official EGW site)
http://www.whiteestate.org/books/books.asp
(Books by EGW on Official EGW site)
http://www.ellengwhite.info/
(EGW information site)
http://www.ellenwhitedefend.com/
(EGW site which defends her)
http://ellenwhiteanswers.org/
(EGW site by by Jud Lake)
http://www.biblicalperspectives.com/
Articles by Dr. Samuele Bacchiocchi
http://www.prophecycode.com/
Prophecy Code by Doug Batchelor
http://www.whitehorsemedia.com/
Steve Wohlberg site
http://christianforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=541
(over 200,000 members of all faiths in forum)
http://www.maritime-sda-online.com/forums
(around 1000 members in forum)
http://www.adventtalk.com/forums/
(No membership numbers available in forum, seems to be in the hundreds)
http://www.heavenlysanctuary.com/forum/index.php
(No membership numbers available in forum, seems to be in the hundreds)
http://thethreeam.com/
(No membership numbers available in forum, seems to be in the hundreds)
http://www.loudcry.org/forums/
(No membership numbers available in forum, seems to be in the hundreds)
http://www.christians-discuss.com/forum/index.php
(No membership numbers available in forum, its brand new)
http://www.thenarrowway.yourlivecommunity.com/default.asp
(No membership numbers available in forum, its brand new)
Anyone come across others that arent listed..
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I came across another new Adventist sites that seems very nice..
http://adventistcorner.com/forums/index.php
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Here is a very good site with good historical and background on the SDA church and pioneers...
http://www.imsmedia.org/
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Here are some sites I was given and will have to check them out..
http://news.adventist.org/
http://www.bibleexplained.com/
http://home.tagnet.org/
http://www.a4t.org/
http://www.heavenlysanctuary.com/
http://www.maranathamedia.com/start/
http://www.audioverse.org/viewspeakers/
http://www.imsmedia.org/
http://www.whiteestate.org/pathways/pioneers....
http://www.theloudcry.net/audio.htm
http://loudcry.org/video.htm
http://ed-white.us/audio/index.html
http://southernillinoishomechurch.org/
http://www.restorationministry.com/multimedia...
http://www.truthfortheendtime.com/
http://www.a4t.org/Audio/EGW/ellen_white.html
http://great-controversy-movie.com/
http://www.remnantofgod.org/
http://www.worldslastchance.com/
http://www.earlysda.com/
http://biblelight.net/
http://www.danielrevelationbiblestudies.com/
http://www.bible-truth.net/
http://www.bible-truth.net/PRI/pri_conference...
http://endtimeissues.com/articles/
http://www.revelationofjesus.net/
http://www.sdalibrary.org/
http://www.acts321.org/
http://omega77.tripod.com/
http://amazingdiscoveries.org/
http://www.lightzone.tv/trailer/trailer.html
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I used to sell them but when I got the current male Chow 'Simba', he has such a loving and calm demeaner with a great personality and good instincts, that I gave away the last litters to all the neighbors in nearby farms and to friends. So now I go and visit the 'offspring' and the neighbors or friends at the same time, they even named theirs after the father so there are many 'Simba Jr.' or variations......
I know what you mean about Simba's loving and calm demeanor. :amen: When I was about 4 years old, my parents decided to try to breed Chows for some extra, desperately needed income. Well, when I saw that little red Chow puppy jumping through the grass at his homeplace he reminded me of a cricket hopping around. So we took 'Cricket' home and loved him for about 8 years. (He had some unbelievable Chinese name as a thorobred but he was 'Cricket' to us.) He was so good with my little brothers and other children who came to live in another house on our property, expecially a precious baby girl with blond hair and blue eyes. Anyway, he would follow us to school every day and then go on a back route back home. Being a Chow, he was not afraid of any other dogs but I suppose people thought he was mean or something. Anyway, one day at the end of my eighth grade year, I came home the back way and found him shot to death. I was so-o-o-o upset! We think that it was a family who was generally unfriendly to most everybody else, but especially to us because of our last name and that we were SDA's (you know - DIFFERENT!), and they may just have had a rather daunting experience with Cricket from teasing him - he didn't suffer fools gladly - we never knew for sure, but that would have been their way of getting back at us for whatever 'reason' in their small minds.
I still have a great love for Chows and would like Martha Stewart for that reason alone if not for her other admirable talents. ;D Unfortunately I live in a trailer park and we are not allowed pets over 20 pounds. :'(
GrammieT :dogwag:
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Simba loves children, and his son Simba Jr. will sit quietly and not bat a eyelash while the children 2-6 years old play with him and make him sit and put their arms around him, and hold him.....
My wife has pictures but I found one that looks like the creme color of my chows...
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Simba loves children, and his son Simba Jr. will sit quietly and not bat a eyelash while the children 2-6 years old play with him and make him sit and put their arms around him, and hold him.....
My wife has pictures but I found one that looks like the creme color of my chows...
Wow! What a beautiful dog. I just want to hug him. Mine was a wonderful orange-red color. Maybe I'll tell you more at another time. It was quite a saga. My daughter has a chocolate colored Chow-Rotweiler mix and he is a darling too. His name is GruffyBear and we all just love him a lot. But, back on topic, huh? :pals:
GrammieT :dogwag:
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....and all of you left blacksda.com off the list, where all of you here have visted/or are members, go figure. Over 250,000 posts in five years makes BSDA the most active Adventist forum on the Internet. First Adventist forum to have a chat room and shoutbox, which Stan and Daryl soon followed. First to do interviews, which Stan followed. First to allow open discussion on 3ABN, which Daryl followed with Adventtalk. Most extensive set of smilies and avators to select from and a 300 game arcade in case you had not noticed.
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I haven't forgotten BSDA! I never will. My home away from home. I am not here too much either. I also visit CA and MSDAoline. I even peek-a-boo other places too! I will never forget your kindness to me either.
I LOVE BLACKSDA.COM AND CALVIN!
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....and all of you left blacksda.com off the list, where all of you here have visted/or are members, go figure. Over 250,000 posts in five years makes BSDA the most active Adventist forum on the Internet. First Adventist forum to have a chat room and shoutbox, which Stan and Daryl soon followed. First to do interviews, which Stan followed. First to allow open discussion on 3ABN, which Daryl followed with Adventtalk. Most extensive set of smilies and avators to select from and a 300 game arcade in case you had not noticed.
Calvie Baby (don't be offended. That's a pet name for my s-i-l too). I didn't notice they left out Black SDA coz I didn't even read what had been posted. Some just make up stuff to post, it seems to be noticed, and I don't bother reading them. It needs to have 'meat' in it for me to read!
Black SDA is a very special place for me too. :dogwag: :rabbit: :purr:
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I frequent BSDA too - and I had not read the list here so did not notice, like Ozzie, that Calvin's creation was missing.
And the Arcade is GREAT!!
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....and all of you left blacksda.com off the list, where all of you here have visted/or are members, go figure. Over 250,000 posts in five years makes BSDA the most active Adventist forum on the Internet. First Adventist forum to have a chat room and shoutbox, which Stan and Daryl soon followed. First to do interviews, which Stan followed. First to allow open discussion on 3ABN, which Daryl followed with Adventtalk. Most extensive set of smilies and avators to select from and a 300 game arcade in case you had not noticed.
We are grateful to you, Calvin!
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....and all of you left blacksda.com off the list, where all of you here have visted/or are members, go figure. Over 250,000 posts in five years makes BSDA the most active Adventist forum on the Internet. First Adventist forum to have a chat room and shoutbox, which Stan and Daryl soon followed. First to do interviews, which Stan followed. First to allow open discussion on 3ABN, which Daryl followed with Adventtalk. Most extensive set of smilies and avators to select from and a 300 game arcade in case you had not noticed.
Well if they believed in the Adventist message I would have added them, but sadly that is not the case as Clay, the administrative group under him and others have made quite clear...
They have fought against and attacked anyone that comes in to the BSDA forum with any belief in Adventism, they have made it clear in their statements that they do not accept Ellen G White or the Spirit of Prophecy or the message given to the the SDA church for the end times, they do not believe in the teaching of the Heavenly Sanctuary, or Pre-Advent Judgement, they feel the seventh day Sabbath is no longer important, they are against the Three Angels' Messages (exposing the papacy, Babylon, ecumenism, explaining the Sabbath-Sunday-question, exalting the law of God, etc.), they have made it clear that they do not believe that the SDA church is the church of the Remnant, they reject what they call the 'imposition of the 28 fundimental beliefs' upon them, they do not accept that 1844 was a key point in prophecy and that the Advent movement that arose out of it was relevant and have repeated their views even at other sites. In short, they do not believe in Adventism and fight against it with every weapon, strategy and tactic on that website, and at the Christianforums.com website, so I am quite familiar with their purpose and beliefs.....
Clay and I have gone over this quite extensively, so if any question on it, please feel free to discuss it with Clay...
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I have not found that to be the case.
Are we talking about the same site? :dunno:
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reddogs, Clay is a vitally important member and the Grand Pooh Bah (Emeritus) of a not-so-secret society at BlackSDA.com, but he is not the owner. Calvin is the owner of BlackSDA.com and is confident enough in his own faith to allow his members to have their own views on theology, religion, faith and the denomination in general.
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reddogs, Clay is a vitally important member and the Grand Pooh Bah (Emeritus) of a not-so-secret society at BlackSDA.com, but he is not the owner. Calvin is the owner of BlackSDA.com and is confident enough in his own faith to allow his members to have their own views on theology, religion, faith and the denomination in general.
Calvin knows what is going on and from my contact with him I would say appears to completely support it.....
Clay or 'Stormyone' as he is known in Christianforums.com has for many years made clear his position on Adventism....
He clearly rejects the Spirit of Prophecy and the pillars of truth of the SDA church, if you have any doubt check out a few of his postings below from the Christianforums.com site as the BSDA site drops out after a few pages so I dont have access to the relevant ones there, thus many Adventist come into BSDA not knowing what the Clay/administrative group truly believe as the threads are gone....
http://christianforums.com/showthread.php?t=2053709
http://christianforums.com/showthread.php?t=2096192
http://christianforums.com/showthread.php?t=6302895
http://christianforums.com/showthread.php?t=2249160
http://christianforums.com/showthread.php?t=6187387
http://christianforums.com/showthread.php?t=2234703
Plus I personally and others have discussed it with Clay/Stormyone extensively and he has left us with no doubt on these issues.
As I said, if you doubt it, ask Clay directly if he accepts Ellen G. White and the 28 Fundimental Beliefs, that will leave you with no doubt on the matter...
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reddogs, Clay is a vitally important member and the Grand Pooh Bah (Emeritus) of a not-so-secret society at BlackSDA.com, but he is not the owner. Calvin is the owner of BlackSDA.com and is confident enough in his own faith to allow his members to have their own views on theology, religion, faith and the denomination in general.
It would appear that reddogs does not share that same confidence in his faith. I'm guessing that Calvin and company are devastated at reddogs charges. Moving on...
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Plus I personally and others have discussed it with Clay/Stormyone extensively and he has left us with no doubt on these issues.
As I said, if you doubt it, ask Clay directly if he accepts Ellen G. White and the 28 Fundamental Beliefs, that will leave you with no doubt on the matter...
The other forum you hang out at has a wide diversity of beliefs. I have never seen you express concern over that.
There are those SDA's that believe it is alright to drink alcohol socially,EW was a nice lady that was delusional, she is not a prophet but a good writer,some of what she says has value and then skip over the part you disagree with etc.
Can you explain the difference as you included C/A in the list of websites I believe
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reddogs, Clay is a vitally important member and the Grand Pooh Bah (Emeritus) of a not-so-secret society at BlackSDA.com, but he is not the owner. Calvin is the owner of BlackSDA.com and is confident enough in his own faith to allow his members to have their own views on theology, religion, faith and the denomination in general.
It would appear that reddogs does not share that same confidence in his faith. I'm guessing that Calvin and company are devastated at reddogs charges. Moving on...
I dont think he cares about what I have to say, but go to the source, ask Clay/Stormyone...I have no doubt he will share his opinions...
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Do you leave out a forum such as BSDA because some of the members do not follow the standard SDA line? I have found the general tenor of that site to be SDA oriented.
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Do you leave out a forum such as BSDA because some of the members do not follow the standard SDA line? I have found the general tenor of that site to be SDA oriented.
If the site or administration purpose or basis is Former-Adventist, Ex-Adventist or Anti-Adventist site, I would not generaly add them to the list... (i.e. www.ellenwhiteexposed.com)
Discussing and debating Adventism is one thing, but if the site is against Adventism I would not want to direct the average newbie or Adventist to it and for good reason. After many threads in BSDA which made clear their veiwpoint, I finally asked in seperate threads if anyone in BSDA believed in the 28 Fundimentals or accepted the Spirit of Prophecy and Ellen White, and the response from the members was not in the affirmative....
Because of the rejection of basic Adventist beliefs and views by Clay/Stormyone and others, the Adventist section at Christianforums was thrown into turmoil and had to be divided into Progressive/Moderate/Former Adventists group and a regular Adventist, which basically tore apart many members as they had to choose one or the other. Talk about a literal 'shaking' out, we went throught it.....
http://christianforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=943
Despite it all, I consider Clay/Stormyone a good friend, but as I believe in the Adventist truths, we just have to take seperate paths till the Holy Spirit brings us into all truth and I hope to see him there....
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Despite it all, I consider Clay/Stormyone a good friend, but as I believe in the Adventist truths, we just have to take seperate paths till the Holy Spirit brings us into all truth and I hope to see him there....
Seems to me that you've set yourself up as judge and jury as to who is Adventist and who is not, but I guess we've seen quite a few of your ilk, who make their own decision on who is Adventist and who is not. So sad to see people who will try to lock other Adventists out of their midst, "because they don't measure up to their own personal standards". :scratch:
Trouble is, that there are many people missing from our pews because of such judgemental attitudes. :'(
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I still have a great love for Chows and would like Martha Stewart for that reason alone if not for her other admirable talents. ;D Unfortunately I live in a trailer park and we are not allowed pets over 20 pounds. :'(
GrammieT :dogwag:
Interesting that you should mention Martha Stewart. She happens to be visiting Iceland these days, if she hasn't left. Martha Stewart came here to visit the wife of the president of Iceland who is a good friend of hers. A couple of days ago they went to have some food at a restaurant not far from where we live. The president went along, and their "private" trip was caught by a newspaper reporter.
A member of the Icelandic parliament protested in his blog that the president lets himself be seen together with Martha Stewart because she apparently was caught in an inappropriate business deal a few years back.
Now this politician is under heave attack by other bloggers calling him narrow minded. Some state that Martha Sttewart was really innocent, others think it was well done of the president to accompany is wife and her visitor.
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Despite it all, I consider Clay/Stormyone a good friend, but as I believe in the Adventist truths, we just have to take seperate paths till the Holy Spirit brings us into all truth and I hope to see him there....
Seems to me that you've set yourself up as judge and jury as to who is Adventist and who is not, but I guess we've seen quite a few of your ilk, who make their own decision on who is Adventist and who is not. So sad to see people who will try to lock other Adventists out of their midst, "because they don't measure up to their own personal standards". :scratch:
Trouble is, that there are many people missing from our pews because of such judgemental attitudes. :'(
I do not judge Clay/Stormyone as he knows I think of him as a brother in Christ and talk long and hard with him on these truths, it is from his own posts and threads and many one on one discussions, and you can ask him to verify his views on Adventism and against the Spirit of Prophecy if you want, as we have seen from his many posts but you are free to verify it for yourself...
What are we to do if someone goes against the truth, how do we handle it by ignoring it and letting them fall into error, I think not....
19My brothers, if one of you should wander from the truth and someone should bring him back, 20remember this: Whoever turns a sinner from the error of his way will save him from death and cover over a multitude of sins. James 5:19-20
If I wander from the truth I would hope and pray my brothers in Christ would do everything they could to come for me to bring me back...
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What are we to do if someone goes against the truth, how do we handle it by ignoring it and letting them fall into error, I think not....
19My brothers, if one of you should wander from the truth and someone should bring him back, 20remember this: Whoever turns a sinner from the error of his way will save him from death and cover over a multitude of sins. James 5:19-20
If I wander from the truth I would hope and pray my brothers in Christ would do everything they could to come for me to bring me back...
Other forums that you frequent are quite well known for their anti-SDA mainstream beliefs. Particularily so concerning EW and the SOP. I don't see many having a problem with that which goes against our doctrines.
There are even those that like to pull a sentnece or two from EW'a writings and mock them or make her look like a raving,radical loon.
Which is the better approach. I have no idea if what you say concerning BSDA and Clay is true or not, but if it is, it seems he is upfront about it. Is that somehow worse than the ones that are quietly here and there working against EW and her writings and what we believe. For me, give me someone that is staright forward any day
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I still have a great love for Chows and would like Martha Stewart for that reason alone if not for her other admirable talents. ;D Unfortunately I live in a trailer park and we are not allowed pets over 20 pounds. :'(
GrammieT :dogwag:
Interesting that you should mention Martha Stewart. She happens to be visiting Iceland these days, if she hasn't left. Martha Stewart came here to visit the wife of the president of Iceland who is a good friend of hers. A couple of days ago they went to have some food at a restaurant not far from where we live. The president went along, and their "private" trip was caught by a newspaper reporter.
A member of the Icelandic parliament protested in his blog that the president lets himself be seen together with Martha Stewart because she apparently was caught in an inappropriate business deal a few years back.
Now this politician is under heave attack by other bloggers calling him narrow minded. Some state that Martha Sttewart was really innocent, others think it was well done of the president to accompany is wife and her visitor.
Well, when it comes to insider trading, the banks are the worst. They use their analysts and others to tip off others when they are going to dump stock and/or they know information that will affect stock. Only those in the know can read in between the lines and get out while the getting is good, the others suffer when the stock tanks...
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What are we to do if someone goes against the truth, how do we handle it by ignoring it and letting them fall into error, I think not....
19My brothers, if one of you should wander from the truth and someone should bring him back, 20remember this: Whoever turns a sinner from the error of his way will save him from death and cover over a multitude of sins. James 5:19-20
If I wander from the truth I would hope and pray my brothers in Christ would do everything they could to come for me to bring me back...
Other forums that you frequent are quite well known for their anti-SDA mainstream beliefs. Particularily so concerning EW and the SOP. I don't see many having a problem with that which goes against our doctrines.
There are even those that like to pull a sentnece or two from EW'a writings and mock them or make her look like a raving,radical loon.
Which is the better approach. I have no idea if what you say concerning BSDA and Clay is true or not, but if it is, it seems he is upfront about it. Is that somehow worse than the ones that are quietly here and there working against EW and her writings and what we believe. For me, give me someone that is staright forward any day
Well if you are the moderator/ADMIN on a Adventist site, you would at least expect that they believe in the basic 28 fundimentals and EGW and basic Christian beliefs, and since that is not the case with the ADMIN, moderators, or others in BSDA, that is why I cannot recommend them as a good SDA site. Here is Clay/StormyOne responding to another member on his beliefs...
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If what is meant by the word fundamentalism is infallibility of the Bible not only in matters of faith and morals but also as a literal historical record, holding as essential to Christian faith belief in such doctrines as the creation of the world, the virgin birth, physical resurrection, atonement by the sacrificial death of Christ, and the Second Coming then I will kindly welcome the title fundamental........
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well that clarifies things.... it also explains why religion is probably a topic you and I need not discuss because there is no common point from which to begin dialog..... glad that's been cleared up.... have a good evening....
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