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[Bob Pickle]

Pat,

It would be much better if you would simply address the points I have made rather than ignore them. When a valid point is made, acknowledge it. Otherwise you simply look like a paid spin doctor.

So let's take them one point at a time: Why else would Danny hire someone he knew to be a sexual predator and a pedophile if it weren't for nepotism? This falls under ¶ 48(a).

Answer that one and then we'll go on.

[Pat Williams]

Pat,

It would be much better if you would simply address the points I have made rather than ignore them. When a valid point is made, acknowledge it.

When you do, I will.

laters...

[Bob Pickle]

Pat,

It would be much better if you would simply address the points I have made rather than ignore them. When a valid point is made, acknowledge it.

When you do, I will.

I did make a valid point. Why would Danny hire his brother, a known sexual predator and pedophile, and then replace Linda with him, if it wasn't for nepotism?

[Pat Williams]

Pat,

It would be much better if you would simply address the points I have made rather than ignore them. When a valid point is made, acknowledge it.

When you do, I will.

I did make a valid point. Why would Danny hire his brother, a known sexual predator and pedophile, and then replace Linda with him, if it wasn't for nepotism?

No, Bob. Those are called accusations. That question is like me asking: "Have you stopped abusing and browbeating your wife yet? And why would you do that if you weren't such a control freak, Bob?" If I asked you that, you wouldn't say; "Oh that's a valid point, Pat". You'd demand a retraction, an apology, or both.

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[Bob Pickle]

Pat,

It would be much better if you would simply address the points I have made rather than ignore them. When a valid point is made, acknowledge it.

When you do, I will.

I did make a valid point. Why would Danny hire his brother, a known sexual predator and pedophile, and then replace Linda with him, if it wasn't for nepotism?

No, Bob. Those are called accusations. That question is like me asking: "Have you stopped abusing and browbeating your wife yet? And why would you do that if you weren't such a control freak, Bob?" If I asked you that, you wouldn't say; "Oh that's a valid point, Pat". You'd demand a retraction, an apology, or both.

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Then let's take it real slow.

1. Did Danny or 3ABN hire Tommy around 2001?

2. Did Danny know that Tommy was a sexual predator and a pedophile?

3. Did Tommy replace Linda as far as some functions go?

4. Is Tommy Danny's brother?

5. Is nepotism the preferential hiring of family members?

Which question do you believe is problematic? Certainly, not 1, 3, 4, and 5? So is the only one in dispute 2?

Narrow the problem down, and then let's discuss the detail you believe to be problematic.

[Sister]

Did Tommy have the formal education or the experience that would qualify him to head the production department at 3ABN? If the answer is no, and it is no, then what possible reason was there for hiring him other than nepotism?

[Adam]

Tommy testified before judge Bellows at the last hearing that he only had a High School Education. He then stated to the judge that he had took a few "Bible courses."

[Sister]

Tommy testified before judge Bellows at the last hearing that he only had a High School Education. He then stated to the judge that he had took a few "Bible courses."

So, Tommy did not have the educational or moral qualifications to be a pastor. Ronnie Shelton, who also does not have the educational requirements to be a minister is serving as an SDA pastor. Why?

[Adam]

Tommy testified before judge Bellows at the last hearing that he only had a High School Education. He then stated to the judge that he had took a few "Bible courses."

So, Tommy did not have the educational or moral qualifications to be a pastor. Ronnie Shelton, who also does not have the educational requirements to be a minister is serving as an SDA pastor. Why?

I have often wondered that myself. I do believe that churches need to start doing background checks before they hire people like this to be their pastor. This pastoral sex abuse, is becoming to common that it is sick.

[Bob Pickle]

Tommy testified before judge Bellows at the last hearing that he only had a High School Education. He then stated to the judge that he had took a few "Bible courses."

So, Tommy did not have the educational or moral qualifications to be a pastor. Ronnie Shelton, who also does not have the educational requirements to be a minister is serving as an SDA pastor. Why?

Ronnie is no longer serving as an Adventist pastor.

[Adam]

Another thing that really gripes me, is how on earth can someone with a H.S. education start the Ezra Christian School, and run it?

I have my own reasons for why he pushed for that school to be founded to begin with, but I'll remain quiet. I think it now is obvious.......

Can someone answer this question though, was there acts committed in the Ezra Church of God?

I know that both victims in Virginia have testified that they was molested in the church, as well as other places.

[mrst53]

At one time, the Church of God(at least Dunn Loring's Group) did not require formal Bible or College Education. I was considering becoming a preacher. as I thought that God had called me to preach. The Church of God allows women pastors. Their requirements were that you were known to be a born again Christian, a long history of faith in God and be recommended by 2 or 3 people in the Church and community that were land owners. It was pretty much up to the church and pastor whether or not to ordain the person.

[ex3abnemployee]

Another thing that really gripes me, is how on earth can someone with a H.S. education start the Ezra Christian School, and run it?

I have my own reasons for why he pushed for that school to be founded to begin with, but I'll remain quiet. I think it now is obvious.......

Can someone answer this question though, was there acts committed in the Ezra Church of God?

I know that both victims in Virginia have testified that they was molested in the church, as well as other places.

A college education is totally unnecessary to run a school. And yes, there were  MANY acts committed inside the Ezra Church of God.

[tinka]

Another thing that really gripes me, is how on earth can someone with a H.S. education start the Ezra Christian School, and run it?

I have my own reasons for why he pushed for that school to be founded to begin with, but I'll remain quiet. I think it now is obvious.......

Can someone answer this question though, was there acts committed in the Ezra Church of God?

I know that both victims in Virginia have testified that they was molested in the church, as well as other places.

premeditation, premeditation, premeditation ...

[Adam]

Another thing that really gripes me, is how on earth can someone with a H.S. education start the Ezra Christian School, and run it?

I have my own reasons for why he pushed for that school to be founded to begin with, but I'll remain quiet. I think it now is obvious.......

Can someone answer this question though, was there acts committed in the Ezra Church of God?

I know that both victims in Virginia have testified that they was molested in the church, as well as other places.

A college education is totally unnecessary to run a school. And yes, there were  MANY acts committed inside the Ezra Church of God.

Sorry, Duane, but I think we disagree on this. I believe someone should have a higher education than that they are teaching.