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Title: Herman Cain faces . . .
Post by: Johann on November 08, 2011, 12:52:01 AM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/herman-cain-faces-sexual-harassment-allegations-from-fourth-woman/2011/11/07/gIQA8mZOxM_story.html?wprss=rss_homepage

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/sharon-bialek-accuses-cain-speaks-out/2011/11/07/gIQADYPlvM_story.html
Title: Re: Herman Cain faces . . .
Post by: Alex L. Walker on November 08, 2011, 12:35:42 PM
God help us if he becomes our nominee. Moreover, our President!

Perry 2012!!!!!
Title: Re: Herman Cain faces . . .
Post by: Murcielago on November 08, 2011, 02:40:35 PM
God help us if he becomes our nominee. Moreover, our President!

Perry 2012!!!!!
What are the factors that bring you to those two conclusions?
Title: Re: Herman Cain faces . . .
Post by: Snoopy on November 08, 2011, 03:09:44 PM
God help us if he becomes our nominee. Moreover, our President!

Perry 2012!!!!!
What are the factors that bring you to those two conclusions?

 :goodpost:
Title: Re: Herman Cain faces . . .
Post by: Bob Pickle on November 09, 2011, 12:35:01 PM
I do not like the fact that Perry has been accused of corporate cronyism, with explicit details. True Christians should not be handing out favors in exchange for campaign contributions.

One thing I recall reading is that a commission was established to deal with disputes between buyers and home builders. A wealthy builder's lawyer wrote the legislation, and then sat on the commission, which was stacked against the buyers. I may have the details wrong, but it was something like that.

If we elect a Christian, he needs to be a Christian through and through. No money laundering permitted, which was another issue I recall reading about.
Title: Re: Herman Cain faces . . .
Post by: princessdi on November 09, 2011, 03:10:53 PM
Somebody please stick a fork in Herman Cain...he's done.......It's down right embarrassing at this point.   
Title: Re: Herman Cain faces . . .
Post by: Snoopy on November 09, 2011, 04:57:22 PM
Somebody please stick a fork in Herman Cain...he's done.......It's down right embarrassing at this point. 

I absolutely disagree.  Good for him for standing up to them, especially after some of the details coming about the women.
Title: Re: Herman Cain faces . . .
Post by: princessdi on November 10, 2011, 12:34:43 PM
Well, I say that, Snoopy, because these accusations have already come out in a "senate" run he attempted, right?  What made him think they would not come out in a presidential run....not to mention they are true!!!  also, where is his wife?  She is nowhere to be found. 

In plain Princess terms, he's just nasty, stupid, and needs to go and sit his tired old tail down somewhere.  He's excellent at building a empire with pizzas...stick to what you know.......not to mention the "999"..............smh............. ::)
Title: Re: Herman Cain faces . . .
Post by: Alex L. Walker on November 10, 2011, 12:39:52 PM
I do not like the fact that Perry has been accused of corporate cronyism, with explicit details. True Christians should not be handing out favors in exchange for campaign contributions.

One thing I recall reading is that a commission was established to deal with disputes between buyers and home builders. A wealthy builder's lawyer wrote the legislation, and then sat on the commission, which was stacked against the buyers. I may have the details wrong, but it was something like that.

If we elect a Christian, he needs to be a Christian through and through. No money laundering permitted, which was another issue I recall reading about.


BOB BOB....Really????? Show your proof.
Title: Re: Herman Cain faces . . .
Post by: Alex L. Walker on November 10, 2011, 12:40:26 PM
Well, I say that, Snoopy, because these accusations have already come out in a "senate" run he attempted, right?  What made him think they would not come out in a presidential run....not to mention they are true!!!  also, where is his wife?  She is nowhere to be found. 

In plain Princess terms, he's just nasty, stupid, and needs to go and sit his tired old tail down somewhere.  He's excellent at building a empire with pizzas...stick to what you know.......not to mention the "999"..............smh............. ::)
:goodpost: :goodpost: :goodpost:
Title: Re: Herman Cain faces . . .
Post by: Alex L. Walker on November 10, 2011, 12:42:23 PM
God help us if he becomes our nominee. Moreover, our President!

Perry 2012!!!!!
What are the factors that bring you to those two conclusions?

He's no conservative. He can't make up his mind on homosexuality or abortion.  He clearly cannot keep his hand's to himself. He is plum disgusting.

Perry is the only choice. True conservative and Christian.

Perry/Gingrich 2012!!!!
Title: Re: Herman Cain faces . . .
Post by: Bob Pickle on November 10, 2011, 01:11:29 PM
Perry is the only choice. True conservative and Christian.

Alex, true Christians do not engage in the kind of shenanigans that Perry is alleged to have been involved in.

Google "Perry cronyism" and do a little research.

Bush tried to tell us he was a Christian, but he never was up front with American Christians because he never told them that he had a foul mouth. If I had known that Bush would take God's name in vain when speaking of the U.S. Constitution as being but a ___ ___ piece of paper, I would have thought twice about voting for him.

You can't trust lawyers, and you can't trust politicians. Generally, they will make any claim they need to in order to get elected.
Title: Re: Herman Cain faces . . .
Post by: Alex L. Walker on November 10, 2011, 01:40:17 PM
Perry is the only choice. True conservative and Christian.

Alex, true Christians do not engage in the kind of shenanigans that Perry is  to have been involved in.alleged

Google "Perry cronyism" and do a little research.

Bush tried to tell us he was a Christian, but he never was up front with American Christians because he never told them that he had a foul mouth. If I had known that Bush would take God's name in vain when speaking of the U.S. Constitution as being but a ___ ___ piece of paper, I would have thought twice about voting for him.

You can't trust lawyers, and you can't trust politicians. Generally, they will make any claim they need to in order to get elected.

alledged....?
Title: Re: Herman Cain faces . . .
Post by: Snoopy on November 10, 2011, 01:48:13 PM
Perry is the only choice. True conservative and Christian.

Alex, true Christians do not engage in the kind of shenanigans that Perry is  to have been involved in.alleged

Google "Perry cronyism" and do a little research.

Bush tried to tell us he was a Christian, but he never was up front with American Christians because he never told them that he had a foul mouth. If I had known that Bush would take God's name in vain when speaking of the U.S. Constitution as being but a ___ ___ piece of paper, I would have thought twice about voting for him.

You can't trust lawyers, and you can't trust politicians. Generally, they will make any claim they need to in order to get elected.

alledged....?

The word is ALLEGED.  And the same argument holds true for Herman Cain, in my opinion.  I don't care how many "good post" icons you use.  But I also don't care to argue politics with anyone, so I will stick with my opinion and watch you guys go at it from lurker mode.
Title: Re: Herman Cain faces . . .
Post by: Artiste on November 10, 2011, 03:11:06 PM
A private investigator is claiming that lie detection software shows Herman Cain is innocent.


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Ward said the $15,000 software can detect lies in people's voices.

CBS Atlanta's Mike Paluska played Cain's speech for Ward into the software and watched as it analyzed Cain's every word.

If he is hiding something this thing would have spiked way down here," said Ward.  "He is being truthful, totally truthful.  He is a man with integrity and he talked directly about not knowing any incident he is accused of."

The software analyzes the stress level and other factors in your voice.  During the speech, when Cain denied the claims, the lie detector read "low risk."  According to Ward, that means Cain is telling the truth.

During the section of Bialek's news conference where she says, "He suddenly reached over put his hand on my leg under my skirt and reached for my genitals he also grabbed my head brought it towards his crotch."

During the analysis of that section the software said "high risk statement."  Ward said that means she is not  telling the truth about what happened.

"I don't think she is fabricating her meetings," said Ward.  But, she is fabricating what transpired."

Ward said nearly 70 law enforcement agencies nationwide use the voice software, including the Forsyth County Sheriff's Office.

Ward said the technology is a scientific measure that law enforcement use as a tool to tell when someone is lying and that it has a 95 percent success rate.

After listening to Cain's speech and analyzing it, Ward said there is no doubt, Cain is innocent.

"When he directly talks about the allegations against him there is no high risk," said Ward.  "It is low risk, which tells me he is being truthful in his conversations to the public."


Title: Re: Herman Cain faces . . .
Post by: Murcielago on November 10, 2011, 03:49:19 PM
I personally don't care to see a politician get into high office who wears his religion on his sleeve. There are enough of them who would love to make us a Christian version of Iran as a theocracy led by a Christian ayatollah, legislating his version of Christianity on us all, and conquering the world in the name of Jesus.
Title: Re: Herman Cain faces . . .
Post by: Bob Pickle on November 10, 2011, 05:28:40 PM
alledged....?

The difficulty is that some politicians resort to starting smear campaigns, and it can be difficult figuring out who is telling the truth. I don't personally have proof that Perry did extend favors that disadvantaged the little guy in exchange for money, but those are the allegations, and they have been around for years.
Title: Re: Herman Cain faces . . .
Post by: Johann on November 10, 2011, 07:29:26 PM
A private investigator is claiming that lie detection software shows Herman Cain is innocent.


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Ward said the $15,000 software can detect lies in people's voices.

CBS Atlanta's Mike Paluska played Cain's speech for Ward into the software and watched as it analyzed Cain's every word.

If he is hiding something this thing would have spiked way down here," said Ward.  "He is being truthful, totally truthful.  He is a man with integrity and he talked directly about not knowing any incident he is accused of."

The software analyzes the stress level and other factors in your voice.  During the speech, when Cain denied the claims, the lie detector read "low risk."  According to Ward, that means Cain is telling the truth.

During the section of Bialek's news conference where she says, "He suddenly reached over put his hand on my leg under my skirt and reached for my genitals he also grabbed my head brought it towards his crotch."

During the analysis of that section the software said "high risk statement."  Ward said that means she is not  telling the truth about what happened.

"I don't think she is fabricating her meetings," said Ward.  But, she is fabricating what transpired."

Ward said nearly 70 law enforcement agencies nationwide use the voice software, including the Forsyth County Sheriff's Office.

Ward said the technology is a scientific measure that law enforcement use as a tool to tell when someone is lying and that it has a 95 percent success rate.

After listening to Cain's speech and analyzing it, Ward said there is no doubt, Cain is innocent.

"When he directly talks about the allegations against him there is no high risk," said Ward.  "It is low risk, which tells me he is being truthful in his conversations to the public."




I wonder if Ms. Bialek is supposed to talk as if what was done to her makes no difference to her?
Title: Re: Herman Cain faces . . .
Post by: Alex L. Walker on November 11, 2011, 08:24:46 AM
Lol Snoopy looks like you are getting angry. I misspelled the word....so what?  Go ahead and vote for Mr. Nasty Cain. Sorry, but for women dont just make up a story like that.

Perry wears religion on his sleeve? HA. Prove it.

I will vote for the true conservative, who is Rick Perry.

Also all of you Cain lovers.....explain his inconsistent statements!!!!!!! bet you wont.....
Title: Re: Herman Cain faces . . .
Post by: Snoopy on November 11, 2011, 09:18:31 AM
Lol Snoopy looks like you are getting angry. I misspelled the word....so what?  Go ahead and vote for Mr. Nasty Cain. Sorry, but for women dont just make up a story like that.

Perry wears religion on his sleeve? HA. Prove it.

I will vote for the true conservative, who is Rick Perry.

Also all of you Cain lovers.....explain his inconsistent statements!!!!!!! bet you wont.....

LOL!!  Sorry, my friend.  I don't get angry over politics - too old for that!  Sorry to disappoint you.  But it does look like you are confused, as I never said anything about Perry wearing his religion on his sleeve.  I actually think Romney does a much better job of that than Perry.  Anyway, the poll results after the most recent debate show your precious Perry sinking...down...down...down...  In the words of a princess, "you could stick a fork in him - he's done!!!"



Title: Re: Herman Cain faces . . .
Post by: Murcielago on November 11, 2011, 09:23:46 AM
Alex, I didn't say Perry wears his religion on his sleeve, in fact he doesn't. He does, however, seem to have a hard time remembering what he plans to do. I'm personally  holding back on judgement of Cain in regards to the allegations being leveled at him. When it comes to the abilities of the candidates to run the country, I am very skeptical of career politicians and Cain is the only candidate who is not. This, in addition to his stellar career in business and finance, elevates him in my opinion.
Title: Re: Herman Cain faces . . .
Post by: Gailon Arthur Joy on November 11, 2011, 10:46:12 PM
Which one will push a National Sunday Law???  I would actually register to vote for the person!!!

And we would all have to wake from our slumber...let's hope we have a enough oil in our lamps!!!

Gailon Arthur Joy
AUReporter
Title: Re: Herman Cain faces . . .
Post by: Murcielago on November 11, 2011, 11:49:20 PM
Which one will push a National Sunday Law???  I would actually register to vote for the person!!!

And we would all have to wake from our slumber...let's hope we have a enough oil in our lamps!!!

Gailon Arthur Joy
AUReporter
Ya, well I think you're out of luck there. None of them would have the nads to do that. You have at least another administration or two before you get that.
Title: Re: Herman Cain faces . . .
Post by: princessdi on November 13, 2011, 07:02:04 PM
Snoopy, I agree as far as Perry is concerned, get a fork for him also.  I don't believe they ought to toss him because of his bad showing in that one debate last week, but he's got others issue.........Poor Cain, another woman cometh forth everytime he turns around(and just to be real about it, it doesn't help that he's black and the women are white, unless I missed something)....he might have to get this stuff striaght and catch the 2016 train.........time to narrow the field to the serious contenders.....

LOL!!  Sorry, my friend.  I don't get angry over politics - too old for that!  Sorry to disappoint you.  But it does look like you are confused, as I never said anything about Perry wearing his religion on his sleeve.  I actually think Romney does a much better job of that than Perry.  Anyway, the poll results after the most recent debate show your precious Perry sinking...down...down...down...  In the words of a princess, "you could stick a fork in him - he's done!!!"