152.—WOMEN SPEAKING IN MEETING. 1 COR. 14:34, 35.
Please give an exposition of 1 Cor. 14:34, 35, in the Question Chair, or refer me to one already given, and oblige. N. O.
Ans.—The question which arises at the present day, over this scripture, is, whether or not women have the privilege of taking part in the public exercises of the house of worship. Should they have this privilege, or should it be denied them? The first point to be settled in reference to this passage, is, Was this the question in Paul's day? Was this the point under discussion? If it was, then that is the question now; if it was not, then it is not the question now, so far as this scripture is concerned; and people are using it in a wrong way when they argue from it that it teaches the withholding from women of the privilege named?
But that it does not pertain to the ordinary exercises of public worship is evident from some statements the apostle has elsewhere made in the same epistle. Turning back to chapter 11:4, we read: "Every man praying or prophesying, having his head covered, dishonoreth his head." Public prayer, and public teaching or preaching, here called "prophesying," constitute the ordinary exercises of public worship, or at least, do so to-day; and in this verse we have directions from the apostle, showing how men should engage in these exercises. But Paul goes right on and gives the same directions concerning women; thus (verse 5): "But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with her head uncovered dishonoreth her head," etc. What is the necessary conclusion from this?—It is, that, so far as the ordinary public services of the church were concerned, women were permitted to share in them equally with the men ; and if this is so, it follows that the apostle does not refer to such exercises in chapter 14:34, 35; for he would not give directions in one place how women should engage in certain exercises, and then in only the fourth chapter following, forbid their taking part in such exercises at all. Hence, though we may not be able to tell just what the apostle does mean in the scripture under notice, inasmuch as it is evident that he does not refer to those circumstances on which the question in regard to women's speaking turns to-day, this scripture is at once removed from this controversy.
There are, however, some expressions used by the apostle here and elsewhere which seem to indicate the nature of the evil against which he is here speaking. He had previously written (see Gal. 3:28) that under the gospel all sexual and national distinctions were done away, with reference to Christian promises, hopes, and privileges; that there was neither male nor female, neither Jew nor Greek, but that all were one in Christ. Considering the condition in which women were held at that time in the heathen world around them, and to a great extent, also, under the Jewish economy, this no doubt seemed to the women a wonderful liberty granted them; and some were, in all probability, inclined to carry it to the extreme of license, and so take a course which was unbecoming and unseemly; and irregularities and abuses were thus liable to grow up in the church. The latter part of 1 Cor. 14 :34, says that they (the women) are to be under obedience. This is in accordance with other injunctions, such as Eph. 5:22 ; Col. 3:18 ; Titus 2:5; 1 Pet. 3:1-6. The irregularities against which Paul warned the church, were, consequently, some actions which violated this principle of the true relationship of the woman to the man. This is further intimated in 1 Tim. 2:11, 12, where we read: "Let the women learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence."
Thus it appears clear that the trouble to which the apostle had reference, was some course on the part of the women by which they were putting themselves in the lead, dictating, or usurping authority over the men. But it is usurping no authority over man for a woman to pray in the public congregation, or to do what Paul, in 1 Cor. 14:3, says he means by "prophesying;" namely, speaking to edification, exhortation, and comfort.
Uriah Smith was editor when the following unsigned article was printed.Quote from: RH Feb. 23, 1892152.—WOMEN SPEAKING IN MEETING. 1 COR. 14:34, 35.
Please give an exposition of 1 Cor. 14:34, 35, in the Question Chair, or refer me to one already given, and oblige. N. O.
Ans.—The question which arises at the present day, over this scripture, is, whether or not women have the privilege of taking part in the public exercises of the house of worship. Should they have this privilege, or should it be denied them? The first point to be settled in reference to this passage, is, Was this the question in Paul's day? Was this the point under discussion? If it was, then that is the question now; if it was not, then it is not the question now, so far as this scripture is concerned; and people are using it in a wrong way when they argue from it that it teaches the withholding from women of the privilege named?
But that it does not pertain to the ordinary exercises of public worship is evident from some statements the apostle has elsewhere made in the same epistle. Turning back to chapter 11:4, we read: "Every man praying or prophesying, having his head covered, dishonoreth his head." Public prayer, and public teaching or preaching, here called "prophesying," constitute the ordinary exercises of public worship, or at least, do so to-day; and in this verse we have directions from the apostle, showing how men should engage in these exercises. But Paul goes right on and gives the same directions concerning women; thus (verse 5): "But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with her head uncovered dishonoreth her head," etc. What is the necessary conclusion from this?—It is, that, so far as the ordinary public services of the church were concerned, women were permitted to share in them equally with the men ; and if this is so, it follows that the apostle does not refer to such exercises in chapter 14:34, 35; for he would not give directions in one place how women should engage in certain exercises, and then in only the fourth chapter following, forbid their taking part in such exercises at all. Hence, though we may not be able to tell just what the apostle does mean in the scripture under notice, inasmuch as it is evident that he does not refer to those circumstances on which the question in regard to women's speaking turns to-day, this scripture is at once removed from this controversy.
There are, however, some expressions used by the apostle here and elsewhere which seem to indicate the nature of the evil against which he is here speaking. He had previously written (see Gal. 3:28) that under the gospel all sexual and national distinctions were done away, with reference to Christian promises, hopes, and privileges; that there was neither male nor female, neither Jew nor Greek, but that all were one in Christ. Considering the condition in which women were held at that time in the heathen world around them, and to a great extent, also, under the Jewish economy, this no doubt seemed to the women a wonderful liberty granted them; and some were, in all probability, inclined to carry it to the extreme of license, and so take a course which was unbecoming and unseemly; and irregularities and abuses were thus liable to grow up in the church. The latter part of 1 Cor. 14 :34, says that they (the women) are to be under obedience. This is in accordance with other injunctions, such as Eph. 5:22 ; Col. 3:18 ; Titus 2:5; 1 Pet. 3:1-6. The irregularities against which Paul warned the church, were, consequently, some actions which violated this principle of the true relationship of the woman to the man. This is further intimated in 1 Tim. 2:11, 12, where we read: "Let the women learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence."
Thus it appears clear that the trouble to which the apostle had reference, was some course on the part of the women by which they were putting themselves in the lead, dictating, or usurping authority over the men. But it is usurping no authority over man for a woman to pray in the public congregation, or to do what Paul, in 1 Cor. 14:3, says he means by "prophesying;" namely, speaking to edification, exhortation, and comfort.
Thus it appears clear that the trouble to which the apostle had reference, was some course on the part of the women by which they were putting themselves in the lead, dictating, or usurping authority over the men. But it is usurping no authority over man for a woman to pray in the public congregation, or to do what Paul, in 1 Cor. 14:3, says he means by "prophesying;" namely, speaking to edification, exhortation, and comfort.
QuoteThus it appears clear that the trouble to which the apostle had reference, was some course on the part of the women by which they were putting themselves in the lead, dictating, or usurping authority over the men. But it is usurping no authority over man for a woman to pray in the public congregation, or to do what Paul, in 1 Cor. 14:3, says he means by "prophesying;" namely, speaking to edification, exhortation, and comfort.
Very good summation here!
2. Regardless of who it is, he appears to only suggest what could be the answer to the question. The way is still open for other possibilities. Stating that someone who suggests a different meaning of the the text is in rebellion, seems itself to be a rebellion, and closes the possibilities of further discussion