Advent Talk

Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
Advanced search  

News:

Welcome to Advent Talk, a place for members and friends of the Seventh-day Adventist Church! 

Feel free to invite your friends to come here.

Pages: 1 2 [3]   Go Down

Author Topic: David Dennis and Robert Folkenberg  (Read 19477 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Artiste

  • Global Moderator
  • Veteran Member
  • *******
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Female
  • Posts: 3036
Re: David Dennis and Robert Folkenberg
« Reply #30 on: February 06, 2008, 08:58:53 PM »

Thank you for the explanation, Imagrandpa.
Logged
"Si me olvido de ti, oh Jerusalén, pierda mi diestra su destreza."

Snoopy

  • Veteran Member
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 3056
Re: David Dennis and Robert Folkenberg
« Reply #31 on: February 10, 2012, 11:24:14 AM »

I agree, imagrandpa.  The Dennis story does warrant its own thread.

I have been studying into the Dennis / Folkenberg era of the SDA church, and I am convinced that Dennis was attacked, thrown out and defamed for being too effective as a whistleblower, when it was Folkenberg with the shady business dealings.  When the brethren finally figured it out, Folkenberg was removed as president of the world church but he is still in charge of "Share Him"!  Unbelievable!!

Dennis wrote a book about his story called Fatal Accounts.  It is an eye-opening read, to say the least.  The scariest part of his story, in my opinion, is that his legal case INCLUDING THE DEFAMATION CHARGE ultimately found protection under the First Amendment Religion Clauses.



The David Dennis story would probably merit a new thread.

In summary, he was an auditor at the GC.... the church's top auditor.
From what I have read (and now believe), he exposed many financial
misdealings that Folkenberg was involved in.  I would think it would be
the job of an auditor in his position to do these things.

Long and short of story ---  Folkenberg retailiated against him for
doing his job and cost the man his livelihood.

Dennis sued the church, I believe for slander or wrongful termination.
The church did NOT want the case to proceed to trial and as a result
spent many years of legal maneuvering to keep 12 jurors from hearing
the evidence and then rendering a judgment.

The church spent several millions of dollars of (tithe money) to keep
it out of the courts.

Bottom line... they wore Dennis down and he ran out of money.

I personally knew people that worked with David Dennis and they
all spoke very highly of him.

The problem in our church is that a man like Folkenberg has too much
power.  Will his influence and power (to give people jobs and take
them away), he can pretty much do what he wants.

I do not remember all of the details of what the accusations were
against Folkengerg --- but it was NOT just a bunch of smoke
and mirrors..

The shame of it all is how David Dennis was treated and thrown
out like a dirty rag.   Although many people in the church knew
and were very aware of the facts.... there were just not enough
of them to make a differnce.  When the new president came in
after Folkenberg -- he said he would appoint a "blue ribbon
committee" to seek out the truth and right some wrongs.

Well, as it usually happens in our church... it never happened.
He figured out that there wasn't enough people pushing for
this and he could just pretend the sordid event never happened.
Sortof like Gilley now proclaiming to want to look to the future
now and forget the past about what was done to Linda.

Our church is very competent when it comes to damamge
control and keeping things away from the members.  The
church has been moving in the wrong direction for a number
of years... and it makes me sad.  I did not join a cult 50
years ago... but this is exactly what it's characteristics are.

It's all about control, control, control.
It starts with the local church and moves right on up !

Remember when the pastor was simply an advisor to
"nominating committees"?   Not now... now they are
EXPECTED  to be the chairman - rather than an observor
or consultant.   This was done in 2000 and the ch.
manual was changed to facilitate this.

I did not join a cult.
« Last Edit: February 10, 2012, 11:34:07 AM by Snoopy »
Logged

Johann

  • Guest
Re: David Dennis and Robert Folkenberg
« Reply #32 on: February 10, 2012, 01:34:29 PM »

Was he a whistle-blower, or?
Logged

Snoopy

  • Veteran Member
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 3056
Re: David Dennis and Robert Folkenberg
« Reply #33 on: February 10, 2012, 02:55:35 PM »

David Dennis was head auditor for the SDA church until Folkenberg got him thrown out.
Logged

youngwarrior

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Posts: 40
Re: David Dennis and Robert Folkenberg
« Reply #34 on: February 10, 2012, 06:12:10 PM »

Whether the church was right or wrong I don't know but I do have a problem with a member suing the church or a fellow member of the church.  According to the Bible and EGW we are to take a loss rather than drag the church or a fellow member in front of a court of law.
Logged

Snoopy

  • Veteran Member
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 3056
Re: David Dennis and Robert Folkenberg
« Reply #35 on: February 10, 2012, 06:17:57 PM »

Whether the church was right or wrong I don't know but I do have a problem with a member suing the church or a fellow member of the church.  According to the Bible and EGW we are to take a loss rather than drag the church or a fellow member in front of a court of law.

I have a problem with the church spending over $6 million of SACRED DOLLARS just to keep Dennis from being able to litigate his claim.  I also think that Mrs. White would be horrified at the way the church treated Dennis in the first place.  The church is not above the law, in spite of how much it might think it is.  I think God gave us a mind and He expects us to use it and not just blindly accept what the church does just because it is "the church".  Wasn't it also Mrs. White who said that the church's main problems in the last days would come from within...??
« Last Edit: February 10, 2012, 06:26:55 PM by Snoopy »
Logged
Pages: 1 2 [3]   Go Up