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Issues & Concerns Category => 3ABN => Topic started by: skiguy on November 09, 2008, 10:03:16 AM
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It is basically a parable, without an interpretation but, if you read it through, it just might be all clear what it is taking about.
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That's a very interesting parable, skiguy, and certainly rings true!
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It is basically a parable, without an interpretation but, if you read it through, it just might be all clear what it is taking about.
Quite amazing story. Read it at <www.tobeone.blog.com>
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Skiguy is another prime witness whom I never met until I talked to him just a few minutes ago. With his personal knowledge of the Shelton family and especially Danny's past history he was not surprised to discover Danny had dumped Linda the same way he had previously dumped all the other founders on 3ABN.
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Thank you for sharing that with us, skiguy. It surely does sound familiar. I can remember standing in the Accounting Department and hearing an employee there declare "We don't WANT to be under the GC umbrella!"
And by the way, I love your name! I learned to ski at Winter Park in Colorado!!
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I changed the blog site to parable.blog.com and also re-did it as well
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<www.parable.blog.com>
You will notice that "skiguy" has now changed to use his real name. He tells me he has nothing to hide, and that is why he is using his real name.
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Why would the mainstream media have any interest in an old story about the brother of a small time televangelist who is alleged to be pedophile? Folks, the cavalry is not coming.
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Okay, Michael it appears another book maybe on its way. That must be chapter one. Some excellent suggestions. I have heard certain rumours about what actually occurred at the start of 3ABN for years. :wave:
Calvin, I wouldn't be concerned about the calvary, but concerned about God's Judgements. As Charles Brooks has preached "One Day God Will Set Your Sins In Order". That goes for all of us.
One day Seventh-Day Adventists will become center stage. The bright lights of the mainstream media will be on us. That is just the way it will be one day. Just maybe we might want to consider that this contention we read about on this forum might be a starting point to bring us to center stage. It certainly has the seed to discredit us. We have inspired counsel that one day we will become center stage if I can use that analogy. The SABBATH issue puts us there. :wave: ;D
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True, the Sabbath issue will bring us in on the world's stage, and when it does, we just don't need any bagage, which we just might bring upon ourselves. This issue, an old one that the press may not be interested in? Was it not, just over a year ago this took place? The pedophile was not fired, like the lovely wife of Cousin A was, A retired him having the Adventists donors supporting him as you are reading this in his retirement. Also, I saw the pedophile recently on TV. Is it not true, the godless press just loves to beat up on churches and Christians?
Those who defend Cousin A, who condone's his hurting so many people, condones his splitting Adventists into two groups of people, he and those like him have “fallen away” like those who did from the Apostolic Church and joined Rome up north. So true with what Charles Brooks has preached "One Day God Will Set Your Sins In Order". That goes for all of us, including Cousin A!
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I have tried to read the Parable several times but my computer won't let me. I might not have the right program to read it. :dunno:
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It is an extensive and interesting story.
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Post deleted. Suggestion didn't work.
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it still works for me, but if you can't bring it up, it is the same on, parable.blog.com
All what I did was told a parable. You ought to see the response to it on 3abntalk. I am getting famus over there with their hating me. Coming out with my real name put a bullseye on me. I never encounter such evil over there. When I came out with my real name on the parable, I better get use to it being attack, as Jesus said, John 15:18 "If the world hates you, you know that it hated Me before it hated you." I had to write out the parable, even though it brought me a list of people hating me over it. Ha, if I only knew I would have that kind of an effect over a parable, I should have written it long ago! Michael
Below is just one of the examples what is on 3abntalk,
Re: Michael J. Diamond, Author
Breezy,
“I have gone to the site. It can also be accessed via http://tobeone.blog.com/. Maybe it was under construction. Right now it's up and just rehashes the same lies and dirt that the PickledJoy crowd have tried their best to sling. What becomes interesting is that this person is so right-wing cuckoo that I believe everybody should read his zany posts...”
“First read about him at : http://bornsaved.com/aboutmichaeldiamond.html. Then read his absolutely whacko post in: http://bornsaved.com. If this is another PickledJoy supporter, then another loony has just joined the bin!” steffan
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It is an extensive and interesting story.
How so? It is the same old story that has be rehashed over and over for more that 3 years here and at BSDA.
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Calvin, I will tell you what I get out of this. It is one more person bearing witness to his or her own experience. Numbers of people telling essentially the same thing impress me. They all have different agendas but they experiences tend to support of each other's testimony though they don't appear to have checked out their stories with each other beforehand.
Not only this but each gives testimony from his or her own point of view. And most give details that can be checked out to verify the truth of his or her own statement.
And yes, it is getting old. And no, Maybe the national press doesn't appear to be that interested. But the story isn't over yet. And I and some others still want to find out how it ends.
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It matters a great deal to me because there are many wrongs out there that have not been righted, many victims who deserve but have not yet received apologies and restitution.
It is troubling that so many take the attitude of "its old news - so what"? If they or their loved ones had been affected, they might take a different tone. To me its the same as saying "That unsolved murder is over three years old and there are no new facts so lets just forget it."
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Oh skiguy, don't pay "no nevermind" to the comments at 3abntalk! I go look over there when I need some entertainment!! It's a small group of dannyclones who grow increasingly angry with each new incriminating revelation about the Shelton/3ABN history. I am thankful for your parable. As for its timing, you bring to mind the name of a song I recall singing at a wedding years ago..."In His Time"!!
it still works for me, but if you can't bring it up, it is the same on, parable.blog.com
All what I did was told a parable. You ought to see the response to it on 3abntalk. I am getting famus over there with their hating me. Coming out with my real name put a bullseye on me. I never encounter such evil over there. When I came out with my real name on the parable, I better get use to it being attack, as Jesus said, John 15:18 "If the world hates you, you know that it hated Me before it hated you." I had to write out the parable, even though it brought me a list of people hating me over it. Ha, if I only knew I would have that kind of an effect over a parable, I should have written it long ago! Michael
Below is just one of the examples what is on 3abntalk,
Re: Michael J. Diamond, Author
Breezy,
“I have gone to the site. It can also be accessed via http://tobeone.blog.com/. Maybe it was under construction. Right now it's up and just rehashes the same lies and dirt that the PickledJoy crowd have tried their best to sling. What becomes interesting is that this person is so right-wing cuckoo that I believe everybody should read his zany posts...”
“First read about him at : http://bornsaved.com/aboutmichaeldiamond.html. Then read his absolutely whacko post in: http://bornsaved.com. If this is another PickledJoy supporter, then another loony has just joined the bin!” steffan
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As for its timing, you bring to mind the name of a song I recall singing at a wedding years ago..."In His Time"!!
Warning - Off topic
Snoopy, that is interesting - In His Time was the song my husband and I chose for our guests to sing at our wedding. I had not heard of it sung at any other wedding.
One of the long term lessons I have learned is that things do happen "In His Time".
And that statement is not off topic.
Please resume normal programming. :D
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I really enjoy such "off topics". Wouldn't mind some more of them.
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That is interesting, Emma! I had never even heard the song before, but when the bride told me what she wanted it seemed an unusual choice since it is such a simply chorus rather than a sappy love song! However, the ceremony was beautiful and the song was perfect especially given their situation! And happily, it has been running through my head since I read your post! Even just the title is so simple but so deep.
As for its timing, you bring to mind the name of a song I recall singing at a wedding years ago..."In His Time"!!
Warning - Off topic
Snoopy, that is interesting - In His Time was the song my husband and I chose for our guests to sing at our wedding. I had not heard of it sung at any other wedding.
One of the long term lessons I have learned is that things do happen "In His Time".
And that statement is not off topic.
Please resume normal programming. :D
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Snoopy, that is interesting - In His Time was the song my husband and I chose for our guests to sing at our wedding. I had not heard of it sung at any other wedding.
It was sung at my wedding. Quite appropriate, with me in my wheelchair, cast or two, 1/10th the guests we had planned for, in the hospital chapel. During the entire service, managed to get one picture where the preacher, groom, and bride were all smiling at the same time.
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Wow, Bob - that's quite a story. But it sounds like your vows "took" just fine!!
Snoopy, that is interesting - In His Time was the song my husband and I chose for our guests to sing at our wedding. I had not heard of it sung at any other wedding.
It was sung at my wedding. Quite appropriate, with me in my wheelchair, cast or two, 1/10th the guests we had planned for, in the hospital chapel. During the entire service, managed to get one picture where the preacher, groom, and bride were all smiling at the same time.
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Your story is way more impressive than ours, Bob. It was second time round for both of us, and a succession of events came together
and so did we.
I first heard the song about 1988 at a camp meeting in Christchurch, New Zealand, it has been round for a while.
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snoopy,
"Oh skiguy, don't pay "no nevermind" to the comments at 3abntalk! I go look over there when I need some entertainment!! It's a small group of dannyclones who grow increasingly angry with each new incriminating revelation about the Shelton/3ABN history. I am thankful for your parable. As for its timing, you bring to mind the name of a song I recall singing at a wedding years ago..."In His Time"!!"
Thank you, snoopy, :amen: to that! I need to hear. Lately, I have been tempted just to take it off! You know, it is the saying, "Stone the messenger, we hate the message!" Ha, I am getting a little too old to, keep on ducking! And that is a great song, "In His Time!" Bob, you being in a weelchair, cast or two on your wedding day? Hmmm, that was not, what I would call, great timming! :)
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I hope you don't remove your parable, skiguy. The way I see it, the amount of negativity one receives at the other forum is directly correlated to the truth of the message shared...no matter how unpleasant or uncomfortable it may be for some.
Thank you, snoopy, :amen: to that! I need to hear. Lately, I have been tempted just to take it off! You know, it is the saying, "Stone the messenger, we hate the message!" Ha, I am getting a little too old to, keep on ducking! And that is a great song, "In His Time!" Bob, you being in a weelchair, cast or two on your wedding day? Hmmm, that was not, what I would call, great timming! :)
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In His Time is one of my favorites too. It gives great promises.
Skyguy;
3ABNTalk is great advertising!
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In His Time is one of my favorites too. It gives great promises.
Skyguy;
3ABNTalk is great advertising!
Fran, so true. I thank you, 3abntalk for promoting the tobeone.blog.com site! :)
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How very true, Fran!! Our very own "Breezy Sam" has been catching up on her reading and finally found the invoices submitted for work performed in connection with the lawsuit that 3ABN INITIATED!! She seems very troubled by the fact that in the legal world, professionals earn their living by submitting invoices! I guess she thinks we should work for free! Maybe I should become my own 501(c)(3) organization and try to get unsuspecting donors to contribute to my livelihood instead of trying to earn a living honestly. But it is nice that Breezy Sam is willing to promote my work for me!
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Maybe I should rethink my strategy and hire her to advertise for me instead of suing her for defamation!!
In His Time is one of my favorites too. It gives great promises.
Skyguy;
3ABNTalk is great advertising!
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She seems very troubled by the fact that in the legal world, professionals earn their living by submitting invoices! I guess she thinks we should work for free! Maybe I should become my own 501(c)(3) organization and try to get unsuspecting donors to contribute to my livelihood instead of trying to earn a living honestly.
Yes, it is interesting that 3ABN defenders not only think that the people who were sued by 3ABN should not get the most minimal compensation for their time, effort, and expenditures in defending themselves, (thinking especially of Bob Pickle, who is charging practically nothing for his time), but also represent that it is unreasonable for professionals to be paid for their work--unlike 3ABN luminaries who ask people to send them money at will.
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So much for knowing - or not knowing?
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It matters a great deal to me because there are many wrongs out there that have not been righted, many victims who deserve but have not yet received apologies and restitution.
It is troubling that so many take the attitude of "its old news - so what"? If they or their loved ones had been affected, they might take a different tone. To me its the same as saying "That unsolved murder is over three years old and there are no new facts so lets just forget it."
This is the reason that the facts have to be brought back out to light again on a regular basis...understanding that each time this is done, the 3ABN defenders will rise up in protest!
And there are new and startling facts added as we speak!
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I wonder if Breezy Sam works for free??
She seems very troubled by the fact that in the legal world, professionals earn their living by submitting invoices! I guess she thinks we should work for free! Maybe I should become my own 501(c)(3) organization and try to get unsuspecting donors to contribute to my livelihood instead of trying to earn a living honestly.
Yes, it is interesting that 3ABN defenders not only think that the people who were sued by 3ABN should not get the most minimal compensation for their time, effort, and expenditures in defending themselves, (thinking especially of Bob Pickle, who is charging practically nothing for his time), but also represent that it is unreasonable for professionals to be paid for their work--unlike 3ABN luminaries who ask people to send them money at will.
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In His Time is one of my favorites too. It gives great promises.
Skyguy;
3ABNTalk is great advertising!
Fran, so true. I thank you, 3abntalk for promoting the tobeone.blog.com site! :)
It was nice of you to look us up, SkiGuy. Are you getting snow in your mountains yet? Or any more writing?
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She seems very troubled by the fact that in the legal world, professionals earn their living by submitting invoices! I guess she thinks we should work for free! Maybe I should become my own 501(c)(3) organization and try to get unsuspecting donors to contribute to my livelihood instead of trying to earn a living honestly.
Do you think Danny Shelton managed to get his lawyers to offer their services without receiving any compensation?
Yes, it is interesting that 3ABN defenders not only think that the people who were sued by 3ABN should not get the most minimal compensation for their time, effort, and expenditures in defending themselves, (thinking especially of Bob Pickle, who is charging practically nothing for his time), but also represent that it is unreasonable for professionals to be paid for their work--unlike 3ABN luminaries who ask people to send them money at will.
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Do you think Danny Shelton managed to get his lawyers to offer their services without receiving any compensation?
We have always heard that Danny Shelton boasted that his lawyers were the best, Johann!
Being as he got them from Garwin McNeilus, I assume that they do not come cheap!
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Oh, for those 2007 financial statements!! I have a feeling there will be some interesting information there! I will also be curious to see who did the 2007 audit! Auditors don't enjoy being party to a lawsuit, any more than anybody else does!
Do you think Danny Shelton managed to get his lawyers to offer their services without receiving any compensation?
We have always heard that Danny Shelton boasted that his lawyers were the best, Johann!
Being as he got them from Garwin McNeilus, I assume that they do not come cheap!
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She seems very troubled by the fact that in the legal world, professionals earn their living by submitting invoices! I guess she thinks we should work for free! Maybe I should become my own 501(c)(3) organization and try to get unsuspecting donors to contribute to my livelihood instead of trying to earn a living honestly.
Yes, it is interesting that 3ABN defenders not only think that the people who were sued by 3ABN should not get the most minimal compensation for their time, effort, and expenditures in defending themselves, (thinking especially of Bob Pickle, who is charging practically nothing for his time), but also represent that it is unreasonable for professionals to be paid for their work--unlike 3ABN luminaries who ask people to send them money at will.
Do you think Danny Shelton managed to get his lawyers to offer their services without receiving any compensation?
I edited the formating - but somehow the old remains above. - Johann
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No, I don't think he did, Johann. However, it wouldn't surprise me if DS managed to sweet talk a donor into paying them. That's one thing I plan to look closely at whenever I can get my hands on those financials!
Do you think Danny Shelton managed to get his lawyers to offer their services without receiving any compensation?
I edited the formating - but somehow the old remains above. - Johann
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She seems very troubled by the fact that in the legal world, professionals earn their living by submitting invoices! I guess she thinks we should work for free! Maybe I should become my own 501(c)(3) organization and try to get unsuspecting donors to contribute to my livelihood instead of trying to earn a living honestly.
Yes, it is interesting that 3ABN defenders not only think that the people who were sued by 3ABN should not get the most minimal compensation for their time, effort, and expenditures in defending themselves, (thinking especially of Bob Pickle, who is charging practically nothing for his time), but also represent that it is unreasonable for professionals to be paid for their work--unlike 3ABN luminaries who ask people to send them money at will.
You mean if I worked for a law firm I'd get paid more than that?
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Simpson stated somewhere that he charges $350 an hour.
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How long do you think it will take for Breezy Sam to post her public indignation over that?
Simpson stated somewhere that he charges $350 an hour.
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She seems very troubled by the fact that in the legal world, professionals earn their living by submitting invoices! I guess she thinks we should work for free! Maybe I should become my own 501(c)(3) organization and try to get unsuspecting donors to contribute to my livelihood instead of trying to earn a living honestly.
Yes, it is interesting that 3ABN defenders not only think that the people who were sued by 3ABN should not get the most minimal compensation for their time, effort, and expenditures in defending themselves, (thinking especially of Bob Pickle, who is charging practically nothing for his time), but also represent that it is unreasonable for professionals to be paid for their work--unlike 3ABN luminaries who ask people to send them money at will.
You mean if I worked for a law firm I'd get paid more than that?
Maybe next time you should make yourself into a law firm...
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I'd hire Bob and Gailon in a heartbeat!!
Maybe next time you should make yourself into a law firm...
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It is an extensive and interesting story.
How so? It is the same old story that has be rehashed over and over for more that 3 years here and at BSDA.
Calvin,
Believe me, there is much more to the story than has ever been "hashed and rehashed" at BSDA or anywhere else. It will soon be available, I am fairly certain!!!
Gailon Arthur Joy
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How soon is soon?
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It was nice of you to look us up, SkiGuy. Are you getting snow in your mountains yet? Or any more writing?
Johann, no snow here, yet! Yes, I am writing, it is about the Seven Festivals and 1844, which they to point to, as well as Daniel 8, and 9 does. In other words, we can get to 1844 just through Leviticus 23 alone. So, it keeps me busy.
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Good for you, skiguy. I agree that many SDAs have no idea what is going on, and I'm thinking maybe it is time to change that.
It was nice of you to look us up, SkiGuy. Are you getting snow in your mountains yet? Or any more writing?
Johann, no snow here, yet! Yes, I am writing, it is about the Seven Festivals and 1844, which they to point to, as well as Daniel 8, and 9 does. In other words, we can get to 1844 just through Leviticus 23 alone. So, it keeps me busy.
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How soon is soon?
Less time than the lawsuit took. Of course when you are writing about the Rise and Fall of the Third Reich, it takes just awhile to get the index done, let alone the history correctly timelined and written.
Gailon Arthur Joy