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[Murcielago]

Good point. Nor will anyone else, no matter what side of the political fence they graze. Wild-eyed rants, by their very nature, overshadow any substance or thought-provoking points that may have reflected some merit. They make the person engaging in the rant look foolish, which in turn makes their view, however noble and substantial it may be, look foolish too. The person who has fact and substance behind them will also have security. Security is reflected in calm and rationale. Fear and insecurity in a point results in frantic name calling and incoherent shouting.

Once again, Christian, you come on here to insult the people who disagree with you. You will never convince anyone or draw them to your viewpoint as long as you do that...

[Johann]

Good point. Nor will anyone else, no matter what side of the political fence they graze. Wild-eyed rants, by their very nature, overshadow any substance or thought-provoking points that may have reflected some merit. They make the person engaging in the rant look foolish, which in turn makes their view, however noble and substantial it may be, look foolish too. The person who has fact and substance behind them will also have security. Security is reflected in calm and rationale. Fear and insecurity in a point results in frantic name calling and incoherent shouting.

 

[tinka]

>
>                                The Possum, 10/20/10
>
>
>
> This lady spoke ON THE RADIO ON A CONSERVATIVE PROGRAM.     HER LIFE 
> HAS BEEN THREATENED AND SHE SAID SHE KNEW SHE WOULD EVENTUALLY BE 
> KILLED, BUT IS VERY VOCAL IN TELLING THE TRUTH AND WARNing CHRISTIANS.
>
> ----Original Message-----
>    
>
> 20 years from now, I will be in Heaven --bye !!
>
> This was written by a woman born in Egypt as a Muslim.
>
> This is not hearsay, and it will scare the life out of you.
> Make sure you read the paragraph (in red) towards the end.
>
> Joys of Muslim Women
> by Nonie Darwish
>
> In the Muslim faith a Muslim man can marry a child as young as 1 
> year old and have sexual intimacy with this child. Consummating the 
> marriage by 9.
> The dowry is given to the family in exchange for the woman (who 
> becomes his slave) and for the purchase of the private parts of the 
> woman, to use her as a toy.
>
> Even though a woman is abused she can not obtain a divorce.
> To prove rape, the woman must have (4) male witnesses.
> Often after a woman has been raped, she is returned to her family 
> and the family must return the dowry.  The family has the right to 
> execute her (an honor killing) to restore the honor of the family. 
> Husbands can beat their wives 'at will' and he does not have to say 
> why he has beaten her.
>
> The husband is permitted to have (4 wives) and a temporary wife for 
> an hour (prostitute) at his discretion.
>
> The Shariah Muslim law controls the private as well as the public 
> life of the woman.
>
> In the West World ( America ) Muslim men are starting to demand 
> Shariah Law so the wife can not obtain a divorce and he can have 
> full and complete control of her.  It is amazing and alarming how 
> many of our sisters and daughters attending American Universities 
> are now marrying Muslim men and submitting themselves and their 
> children unsuspectingly to the Shariah law.
>
> By passing this on, enlightened American women may avoid becoming a 
> slave under Shariah Law. Ripping the West in Two.
> Author and lecturer Nonie Darwish says the goal of radical Islamists 
> is to impose Shariah law on the world, ripping Western law and 
> liberty in two.
>
> She recently authored the book, Cruel and Usual Punishment: The 
> Terrifying Global Implications of Islamic Law.
>
> Darwish was born in Cairo and spent her childhood in Egypt and Gaza   
> before immigrating to America in 1978, when she was eight years old. 
> Her father died while leading covert attacks on   Israel .  He was a 
> high-ranking Egyptian military officer stationed with his family in 
> Gaza .
>
> When he died, he was considered a "shahid," a martyr for jihad. His 
> posthumous status earned Nonie and her family an elevated position 
> in Muslim society.
>
> But Darwish developed a skeptical eye at an early age. She 
> questioned her own Muslim culture and upbringing.. She converted to 
> Christianity after hearing a Christian preacher on television.
>
> In her latest book, Darwish warns about creeping sharia law - what 
> it is, what it means, and how it is manifested in Islamic countries.
>
> For the West, she says radical Islamists are working to impose 
> sharia on the world. If that happens, Western civilization will be 
> destroyed. Westerners generally assume all religions encourage a 
> respect for the dignity of each individual.  Islamic law (Sharia) 
> teaches that non-Muslims should be subjugated or killed in this world.
>
> Peace and prosperity for one's children is not as important as 
> assuring that Islamic law rules everywhere in theMiddle East and 
> eventually in the world.
>
> While Westerners tend to think that all religions encourage some 
> form of the golden rule, Sharia teaches two systems of ethics - one 
> for Muslims and another for non-Muslims. Building on tribal 
> practices of the seventh century, Sharia encourages the side of 
> humanity that wants to take from and subjugate others.
>
> While Westerners tend to think in terms of religious people 
> developing a personal understanding of and relationship with God, 
> Sharia advocates executing people who ask difficult questions that 
> could be interpreted as criticism.
>
> It's hard to imagine, that in this day and age, Islamic scholars 
> agree that those who criticize Islam or choose to stop being Muslim 
> should be executed. Sadly, while talk of an Islamic reformation is 
> common and even assumed by many in the West, such murmurings in the 
> Middle East are silenced through intimidation.
>
> While Westerners are accustomed to an increase in religious 
> tolerance over time, Darwish explains how petro dollars are being 
> used to grow an extremely intolerant form of political Islam in her 
> native Egypt and elsewhere.
>
> (In twenty years there will be enough Muslim voters in the   U.S.   
> to elect the President by themselves! Rest assured they will do 
> so... You can look at how they have taken over several towns in the 
> USA .. Dearborn Mich.  is one... and there are others...)
>
> I think everyone in the U.S. should be required to read this, but 
> with the ACLU, there is no way this will be widely publicized, 
> unless each of us sends it on!
>
> It is too bad that so many are disillusioned with life and 
> Christianity to accept Muslims as peaceful.. some may be but they 
> have an army that is willing to shed blood in the name of Islam.. 
> the peaceful support the warriors with their finances and own kind 
> of patriotism to their religion. While America is getting rid of 
> Christianity from all public sites and erasing God from the lives of 
> children the Muslims are planning a great jihad on America ..
>
> This is your chance to make a difference...! Pass it on to your 
> email list or at least those you think will listen..
>
> Some of those I'm sending it to WILL NOT!

[christian]

THESE POSTINGS ARE MOST DIABOLICAL. We have the prophecy of the bible and it is clear that it is America that will act as a Dragon. While it is true that Islam is a threat it is the religious zealots that I worry about more. These post are meant to tie the president to Islam even though it is noted that he is of the Christian belief. We have the dark ages perputrated not by Muslims but by Christians having there on Ji had. And of all people adventist should know the history not of the muslims but of the first supposed Christian churches. Millions upon millions died during the dark ages not in the name of muslims but under the banner of Christianity. The nut cases on here still perisist in labeling the President a Muslem because they have runed the country and now want someone to blame it on. But I am praying for the president now even as I was forced to pray for the president that preceeded  him that this gospel will be preached unto all the world and then the end shall come. As for the lovely Michelle Obama and Barak Obama may God continue to use them for his purposes. And may the idiots, extremist and nut cases scream and holla while Gods will is being done.

>
>                                The Possum, 10/20/10
>
>
>
> This lady spoke ON THE RADIO ON A CONSERVATIVE PROGRAM.     HER LIFE 
> HAS BEEN THREATENED AND SHE SAID SHE KNEW SHE WOULD EVENTUALLY BE 
> KILLED, BUT IS VERY VOCAL IN TELLING THE TRUTH AND WARNing CHRISTIANS.
>
> ----Original Message-----
>    
>
> 20 years from now, I will be in Heaven --bye !!
>
> This was written by a woman born in Egypt as a Muslim.
>
> This is not hearsay, and it will scare the life out of you.
> Make sure you read the paragraph (in red) towards the end.
>
> Joys of Muslim Women
> by Nonie Darwish
>
> In the Muslim faith a Muslim man can marry a child as young as 1 
> year old and have sexual intimacy with this child. Consummating the 
> marriage by 9.
> The dowry is given to the family in exchange for the woman (who 
> becomes his slave) and for the purchase of the private parts of the 
> woman, to use her as a toy.
>
> Even though a woman is abused she can not obtain a divorce.
> To prove rape, the woman must have (4) male witnesses.
> Often after a woman has been raped, she is returned to her family 
> and the family must return the dowry.  The family has the right to 
> execute her (an honor killing) to restore the honor of the family. 
> Husbands can beat their wives 'at will' and he does not have to say 
> why he has beaten her.
>
> The husband is permitted to have (4 wives) and a temporary wife for 
> an hour (prostitute) at his discretion.
>
> The Shariah Muslim law controls the private as well as the public 
> life of the woman.
>
> In the West World ( America ) Muslim men are starting to demand 
> Shariah Law so the wife can not obtain a divorce and he can have 
> full and complete control of her.  It is amazing and alarming how 
> many of our sisters and daughters attending American Universities 
> are now marrying Muslim men and submitting themselves and their 
> children unsuspectingly to the Shariah law.
>
> By passing this on, enlightened American women may avoid becoming a 
> slave under Shariah Law. Ripping the West in Two.
> Author and lecturer Nonie Darwish says the goal of radical Islamists 
> is to impose Shariah law on the world, ripping Western law and 
> liberty in two.
>
> She recently authored the book, Cruel and Usual Punishment: The 
> Terrifying Global Implications of Islamic Law.
>
> Darwish was born in Cairo and spent her childhood in Egypt and Gaza   
> before immigrating to America in 1978, when she was eight years old. 
> Her father died while leading covert attacks on   Israel .  He was a 
> high-ranking Egyptian military officer stationed with his family in 
> Gaza .
>
> When he died, he was considered a "shahid," a martyr for jihad. His 
> posthumous status earned Nonie and her family an elevated position 
> in Muslim society.
>
> But Darwish developed a skeptical eye at an early age. She 
> questioned her own Muslim culture and upbringing.. She converted to 
> Christianity after hearing a Christian preacher on television.
>
> In her latest book, Darwish warns about creeping sharia law - what 
> it is, what it means, and how it is manifested in Islamic countries.
>
> For the West, she says radical Islamists are working to impose 
> sharia on the world. If that happens, Western civilization will be 
> destroyed. Westerners generally assume all religions encourage a 
> respect for the dignity of each individual.  Islamic law (Sharia) 
> teaches that non-Muslims should be subjugated or killed in this world.
>
> Peace and prosperity for one's children is not as important as 
> assuring that Islamic law rules everywhere in theMiddle East and 
> eventually in the world.
>
> While Westerners tend to think that all religions encourage some 
> form of the golden rule, Sharia teaches two systems of ethics - one 
> for Muslims and another for non-Muslims. Building on tribal 
> practices of the seventh century, Sharia encourages the side of 
> humanity that wants to take from and subjugate others.
>
> While Westerners tend to think in terms of religious people 
> developing a personal understanding of and relationship with God, 
> Sharia advocates executing people who ask difficult questions that 
> could be interpreted as criticism.
>
> It's hard to imagine, that in this day and age, Islamic scholars 
> agree that those who criticize Islam or choose to stop being Muslim 
> should be executed. Sadly, while talk of an Islamic reformation is 
> common and even assumed by many in the West, such murmurings in the 
> Middle East are silenced through intimidation.
>
> While Westerners are accustomed to an increase in religious 
> tolerance over time, Darwish explains how petro dollars are being 
> used to grow an extremely intolerant form of political Islam in her 
> native Egypt and elsewhere.
>
> (In twenty years there will be enough Muslim voters in the   U.S.   
> to elect the President by themselves! Rest assured they will do 
> so... You can look at how they have taken over several towns in the 
> USA .. Dearborn Mich.  is one... and there are others...)
>
> I think everyone in the U.S. should be required to read this, but 
> with the ACLU, there is no way this will be widely publicized, 
> unless each of us sends it on!
>
> It is too bad that so many are disillusioned with life and 
> Christianity to accept Muslims as peaceful.. some may be but they 
> have an army that is willing to shed blood in the name of Islam.. 
> the peaceful support the warriors with their finances and own kind 
> of patriotism to their religion. While America is getting rid of 
> Christianity from all public sites and erasing God from the lives of 
> children the Muslims are planning a great jihad on America ..
>
> This is your chance to make a difference...! Pass it on to your 
> email list or at least those you think will listen..
>
> Some of those I'm sending it to WILL NOT!

[Murcielago]

It is the classic turning of the wheel of time. To date, more blood has been spilled in the name of Jesus Christ than any other deity in recorded human history. I now appears the Muslims are anxious to beat that ignominious record in the name of Allah. However, the move to "bring America back to God" is alarming. No faction that ever ruled by "divine right" has ever been anything less than tyrranical. As I listen to the words and desires of the people who are pushing for what would be a veritable American Theocracy, I see absolutely no difference between them and the muslim extremists. Though they will deny it, fundamentally they worship the same God, and follow the same principles. They are two sides of the same coin. Neither holds any moral or spiritual superiority over the other, as they are the same thing.

[christian]

It is the classic turning of the wheel of time. To date, more blood has been spilled in the name of Jesus Christ than any other deity in recorded human history. I now appears the Muslims are anxious to beat that ignominious record in the name of Allah. However, the move to "bring America back to God" is alarming. No faction that ever ruled by "divine right" has ever been anything less than tyrranical. As I listen to the words and desires of the people who are pushing for what would be a veritable American Theocracy, I see absolutely no difference between them and the muslim extremists. Though they will deny it, fundamentally they worship the same God, and follow the same principles. They are two sides of the same coin. Neither holds any moral or spiritual superiority over the other, as they are the same thing.

Thank goodness, finally someone is thinking. This is an Adventist forum and we have the God given writings of Ellen G. White. In no uncertain terms she lets us know that the Sunday Blue laws and the like, religious persecution etc... come from the prodistant and Catholics uniting together. The mark of the beast and the end of time all are a culmination of the Christian religion and not the Muslims. But religious freedom and separation of church and state are a must if this gospel is to be preached into all the world.  "Two sides of the same coin" are an appropriate description of them.  In there hate filled speeches and finger pointing they are masking there overall plan that of total domination of the conscience of men and women in the name of religion.

[tinka]

Take your wild speach to the American streets and see what happens to ya.  They are already joined at the hip.
Kenya...confiscate ships for ranson, take, take, take.  Obama, take take, take.  Money for the jihad. 
I also know what EGW says.
Sebastian, obsessed, obsessed, obesessed.

EGW, fight for freedom till the end.

Muslims guided are the killers of 911. Muslims will be under the banner of joined at the hip of the most evil that is instilled in them for their belief of the Quaran and the brother out of wedlock desendants. The wild people used in the end to inflict persecution in the end to the remanant with the guidance of the anti Christ formed above the wild of the world.

[Johann]

These discussions are getting too far away from our purpose, so I have locked this topic for now.

Johann, Admin Team

[Johann]

I realize some of the sentiments you have expressed reflect what it going on in the present political campaign.

If you can manage to keep it civil I have nothing against you opening a new topic - as long as you keep the discussion at a balanced level.