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Title: Is the Sabbath a 'test of loyalty'?
Post by: reddogs on April 10, 2008, 02:51:16 AM
Is the Sabbath a 'test of loyalty'?

Will the Sabbath be the defining factor in ones salvation? Many believers who are God fearing and upright do not observe Saturday as the Sabbath, will the Sabbath be the only litmus test that sets Gods people apart in the end?


The Sabbath will be the great test of loyalty, for it is the point of truth especially controverted. When the final test shall be brought to bear upon men, then the line of distinction will be drawn between those who serve God and those who serve Him not. While the observance of the false sabbath in compliance with the law of the state, contrary to the fourth commandment, will be an avowal of allegiance to a power that is in opposition to God, the keeping of the true Sabbath, in obedience to God's law, is an evidence of loyalty to the Creator. While one class, by accepting the sign of submission to earthly powers, receive the mark of the beast, the other choosing the token of allegiance to divine authority, receive the seal of God. {GC 605.2}

Title: Re: Is the Sabbath a 'test of loyalty'?
Post by: inga on April 10, 2008, 05:57:22 PM
I believe that  Sabbath-keeping is only a "sign" of heart loyalty. This heart loyalty will likely be tested in other ways as well.

The Sabbath is not yet such a sign, because the issue has not yet  become prominent before all the world. When the issue becomes clear, with the state attempting to compel citizens to keep Sunday, with economic sanctions against those who will not comply, then it will be a test of loyalty. Right now, I'm sure there are more loyal hearts in other churches than in the Adventist church. (I mean literal numbers.)  When the test comes, these will join together with the loyal ones in the Adventist church to become God's final "remnant."

Is the Sabbath a 'test of loyalty'?

Will the Sabbath be the defining factor in ones salvation? Many believers who are God fearing and upright do not observe Saturday as the Sabbath, will the Sabbath be the only litmus test that sets Gods people apart in the end?


The Sabbath will be the great test of loyalty, for it is the point of truth especially controverted. When the final test shall be brought to bear upon men, then the line of distinction will be drawn between those who serve God and those who serve Him not. While the observance of the false sabbath in compliance with the law of the state, contrary to the fourth commandment, will be an avowal of allegiance to a power that is in opposition to God, the keeping of the true Sabbath, in obedience to God's law, is an evidence of loyalty to the Creator. While one class, by accepting the sign of submission to earthly powers, receive the mark of the beast, the other choosing the token of allegiance to divine authority, receive the seal of God. {GC 605.2}


Title: Re: Is the Sabbath a 'test of loyalty'?
Post by: Bob Pickle on April 11, 2008, 07:10:46 PM
Is there an area in life that the Sabbath will not be a test for at the very end? What's your weakest link?

Title: Re: Is the Sabbath a 'test of loyalty'?
Post by: Tsatsui on April 17, 2008, 06:47:20 AM
For those by whom the Sabbath is understood and observed "more fully", the benefits and blessings received will certainly redefine them  spiritually, certainly forwarding the process of sanctification.  In the more common view of it being a counter observance to Sunday, there is only very limited benefit, the Sabbath being more of a burden for some than a blessing.

Is the Sabbath a 'test of loyalty'?

Will the Sabbath be the defining factor in ones salvation? Many believers who are God fearing and upright do not observe Saturday as the Sabbath, will the Sabbath be the only litmus test that sets Gods people apart in the end?


The Sabbath will be the great test of loyalty, for it is the point of truth especially controverted. When the final test shall be brought to bear upon men, then the line of distinction will be drawn between those who serve God and those who serve Him not. While the observance of the false sabbath in compliance with the law of the state, contrary to the fourth commandment, will be an avowal of allegiance to a power that is in opposition to God, the keeping of the true Sabbath, in obedience to God's law, is an evidence of loyalty to the Creator. While one class, by accepting the sign of submission to earthly powers, receive the mark of the beast, the other choosing the token of allegiance to divine authority, receive the seal of God. {GC 605.2}


Title: Re: Is the Sabbath a 'test of loyalty'?
Post by: RedFalcon on April 21, 2008, 12:38:34 PM
Christ said "The sabbath was made for man and not man for the sabbath."
The sabbath was meant to be a blessing to us. A day to stop our labors and come apart to be with God and our fellow believers. If God had not done this we would be working 7 days a week with no rest at all. I for one am very thankful for that one day of rest at the end of a hard week.
Title: Re: Is the Sabbath a 'test of loyalty'?
Post by: Chrissie on April 21, 2008, 06:41:17 PM
Christ said "The sabbath was made for man and not man for the sabbath."
The sabbath was meant to be a blessing to us. A day to stop our labors and come apart to be with God and our fellow believers. If God had not done this we would be working 7 days a week with no rest at all. I for one am very thankful for that one day of rest at the end of a hard week.

I LOVE Sabbath and don't even answer the phone if/when it rings. If it's an emergency, my family knows how to contact me otherwise, calls go through to 'message bank', which can be answered in my time. I look forward to each Sabbath so much.
Title: Re: Is the Sabbath a 'test of loyalty'?
Post by: Maxey on April 22, 2008, 04:04:01 PM
Christ said "The sabbath was made for man and not man for the sabbath."
The sabbath was meant to be a blessing to us. A day to stop our labors and come apart to be with God and our fellow believers. If God had not done this we would be working 7 days a week with no rest at all. I for one am very thankful for that one day of rest at the end of a hard week.

Sabbath observance, rest and regeneration, is a huge blessing that all could benefit from.  I would like to cast my vote for two Sabbaths per week.

Maxey
Title: Re: Is the Sabbath a 'test of loyalty'?
Post by: peaches on April 23, 2008, 11:42:07 AM
Yes the Sabbath is a test of ones loyalty.  Nevertheless, many who are not keeping Sabbath will be permitted to enter into heaven. 
Title: Re: Is the Sabbath a 'test of loyalty'?
Post by: inga on April 29, 2008, 10:41:42 PM
Yes the Sabbath is a test of ones loyalty.
Always?

What about those who have never heard of any "Sabbath" except Sunday?
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  Nevertheless, many who are not keeping Sabbath will be permitted to enter into heaven. 
Even if they are tested and found to be disloyal? :dunno:
Title: Re: Is the Sabbath a 'test of loyalty'?
Post by: Johann on April 30, 2008, 05:48:57 AM
Somewhere Ellen White ties Religious Liberty in with some of the final events, as if that also could be a test. It appears as if the late pope somehow tied Seventh-day Adventists in with those granting the individual too much religious liberty because we teach each individual has to make the final decision if we want to be saved or not.

Although a different issue, this reminds me of a letter I saw the other day written by a Pentecostal on the Ten Commandments. He admits Pentecostals in the past have mainly dealt with man's relationship with God and extraordinary tokens of this relationship. Therefore they have not dealt so much with doctrines and the Commandments as such. In one aspect he feels Pentecostals have adhered to the Protestant rendition of the Ten Commandments by not having any images in their sanctuaries. In stead of paintings and graven images they post Scripture passages where they gather for worship.

His letter was written in private correspondence as an answer to a question how the Pentecostals divide the Commandments, like the Catholics or the Reformers. He stated that personally he preferred the division of the Reformers, although the Pentecostals have never made a declaration on this question.

Who knows what will happen when this question becomes a question of loyalty to the Creator? Will that be a mere question of Sabbath or Sunday, or will it be a question of full loyalty and acceptance of the pure Gospel of Christ, which includes real Sabbath observance?