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Issues & Concerns Category => 3ABN => Topic started by: bonnie on October 28, 2008, 10:23:57 AM

Title: Questions I would Like to Ask Bob
Post by: bonnie on October 28, 2008, 10:23:57 AM
I know that in the past you have held positions of responsibility in the church. Your friend Stan Jensen said on another forum that you did contract work for the GC and they were well pleased.

Do you believe or do you have reason to think that the GC and the MN conference would be well pleased to deal with the National Enquirer? Could it be that part of your contract responsibilities do include the suggestion you have made and the call for others to notify the media.

Before any want to place themselves in front of that train wreck, stop and consider Joe the Plumber on the political scene. A innocent question to the wrong person has caused him no end of embarrassment.

Getting the media interested in 3ABN as an SDA independent ministry may wake some things the MN conference is hoping stay sleeping.
It also has  a strange way of turning the seeming "hero" on his head in a not very flattering position.


It will be interesting to see who among you rushes to the media with Bob's name and how quickly they may want to look at all of you, especially Bob as well.


Or maybe as 3ABN never did have a warm and fuzzy relationship  as I understand it with the SDA org, they may actually welcome the camera focused on them. If others get trampled in the process, it can be considered "all for the greater good"


Will be interesting
Title: Re: Questions I would Like to Ask Bob
Post by: SDAminister on October 28, 2008, 08:34:01 PM
I know that in the past you have held positions of responsibility in the church. Your friend Stan Jensen said on another forum that you did contract work for the GC and they were well pleased.

Do you believe or do you have reason to think that the GC and the MN conference would be well pleased to deal with the National Enquirer? Could it be that part of your contract responsibilities do include the suggestion you have made and the call for others to notify the media.

FWIW,
In the beginning, 3ABN vainly tried to keep this whole lawsuit closed and away from the the media and even from any public view. But now, they are the ones notifying the media of the suit's current status. They issued a press release. A press release is intended for the press. Should they care if it is the Enquirer or Newsweek?

BTW, if it wasn't for the National Enquirer, John Edwards would probably be the Democrat V.P. candidate today. Or did they step out of line by running the story of his affair and "love" child?

I would be interested in knowing how many news organizations 3ABN faxed that press release to. Bonnie, maybe you should start a new thread "Questions I would like to ask 3ABN" and make this your first question. And did you notice the many falsehoods and inaccuracies in that press release?

1. "The Board made the difficult decision to file a lawsuit after first applying biblical principles on conflict resolution."   Which Bible were they using? New World Translation? Did they apply biblical principles which forbid they suing of a brother in a worldly court? Or is the testimony by at least two apostles not clear enough?
2. "The suit came only after 3ABN tried to persuade Mr. Pickle and Mr. Joy to shut down websites they owned and operated which were being used to spread disparaging statements about 3ABN, and its founder and past president, Danny Shelton. "  I'll spot you two and see if you can find the third: Did Mr. Pickle own these sites?; Was Danny "founder" or "co-founder"? And you guessed the third, there are no disparaging statements proved yet!


SDAminister
Title: Re: Questions I would Like to Ask Bob
Post by: bonnie on October 28, 2008, 09:34:39 PM

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FWIW,
In the beginning, 3ABN vainly tried to keep this whole lawsuit closed and away from the the media and even from any public view. But now, they are the ones notifying the media of the suit's current status. They issued a press release. A press release is intended for the press. Should they care if it is the Enquirer or Newsweek?

Big difference in a press release even if not truthful and what you want done.

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BTW, if it wasn't for the National Enquirer, John Edwards would probably be the Democrat V.P. candidate today. Or did they step out of line by running the story of his affair and "love" child?

John Edwards has nothing to do with this.

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I would be interested in knowing how many news organizations 3ABN faxed that press release to. Bonnie, maybe you should start a new thread "Questions I would like to ask 3ABN" and make this your first question. And did you notice the many falsehoods and inaccuracies in that press release?


I couldn't care less. I doubt it would be that many tho,most would not be aware there was a lawsuit to give a press release over.
You know as well as I, what you are looking to accommplish is everything you know being played out in the media. You can always ask them how many.



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1. "The Board made the difficult decision to file a lawsuit after first applying biblical principles on conflict resolution."   Which Bible were they using? New World Translation? Did they apply biblical principles which forbid they suing of a brother in a worldly court? Or is the testimony by at least two apostles not clear enough?
2. "The suit came only after 3ABN tried to persuade Mr. Pickle and Mr. Joy to shut down websites they owned and operated which were being used to spread disparaging statements about 3ABN, and its founder and past president, Danny Shelton. "  I'll spot you two and see if you can find the third: Did Mr. Pickle own these sites?; Was Danny "founder" or "co-founder"? And you guessed the third, there are no disparaging statements proved yet!


What did you expect them to put in the press relase.
Why not go about your business of counter suing .The one wanting the media should take the responsibilty for doing so.
If the media were interested they will look closely at the accuser as wel. Maybe on second thought it would not be a bad idea



SDAminister
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Title: Re: Questions I would Like to Ask Bob
Post by: Habanero on October 28, 2008, 10:39:34 PM
Bonnie, IMO any desire that 3ABN and Bob may have to get 3ABN's press release and any other stuff out on to the news, and your perpetual argumentations are entirely moot. 3ABN and Danny are big fish in a miniscule pond that nobody but Adventists even knows about. The mass media is interested in things that are interesting to the largest audience possible. The SDA population is one of the smallest audiences possible and have their own news platforms.

In short, your fears and Bob's hopes are all in vain. It just won't happen.
Title: Re: Questions I would Like to Ask Bob
Post by: Johann on October 28, 2008, 10:42:55 PM

In short, your fears and Bob's hopes are all in vain. It just won't happen.

Any other nonsense worth discussing?
Title: Re: Questions I would Like to Ask Bob
Post by: bonnie on October 29, 2008, 04:21:22 AM
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Bonnie, IMO any desire that 3ABN and Bob may have to get 3ABN's press release and any other stuff out on to the news, and your perpetual argumentations are entirely moot. 3ABN and Danny are big fish in a miniscule pond that nobody but Adventists even knows about. The mass media is interested in things that are interesting to the largest audience possible. The SDA population is one of the smallest audiences possible and have their own news platforms.

In short, your fears and Bob's hopes are all in vain. It just won't happen.

I don't believe it will either. The intent is there and the request for others to do something to keep this going as long as possible

Title: Re: Questions I would Like to Ask Bob
Post by: bonnie on October 29, 2008, 04:24:56 AM
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Any other nonsense worth discussing?


This would have been appropriate following Bob's request to go to various media outlet's and maybe getting the National Enquirer to pay.

But that wasn't really the questions I asked Bob

Title: Re: Questions I would Like to Ask Bob
Post by: ex3abnemployee on October 29, 2008, 04:36:21 AM
I don't believe it will either. The intent is there and the request for others to do something to keep this going as long as possible


Think about this. Danny and 3ABN filed this suit on the grounds that "gossip and slander" was being spread. Bob and Gailon fought for a long time to get documents that would either prove or disprove their allegations. After several months, Danny was finally dragged kicking and screaming into releasing the documents.

Now that Bob and Gailon have the opportunity to prove that they were right, and after spending thousands of dollars and man-hours on their defense, Danny wants to say, "oh....never mind."

The goal is clear. Make Bob and Gailon return the documents Danny is so desperate to keep hidden, and then start the lawsuit all over again. This will make Bob and Gailon have to start from square one to get documentation.

This is typical Danny. You have said yourself you don't believe he is innocent. Why should he have to opportunity to keep hiding what he is doing while trying to destroy anyone who crosses him? Is that fair?
Title: Re: Questions I would Like to Ask Bob
Post by: bonnie on October 29, 2008, 04:46:07 AM
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Think about this. Danny and 3ABN filed this suit on the grounds that "gossip and slander" was being spread. Bob and Gailon fought for a long time to get documents that would either prove or disprove their allegations. After several months, Danny was finally dragged kicking and screaming into releasing the documents.

Now that Bob and Gailon have the opportunity to prove that they were right, and after spending thousands of dollars and man-hours on their defense, Danny wants to say, "oh....never mind."

The goal is clear. Make Bob and Gailon return the documents Danny is so desperate to keep hidden, and then start the lawsuit all over again. This will make Bob and Gailon have to start from square one to get documentation.

This is typical Danny. You have said yourself you don't believe he is innocent. Why should he have to opportunity to keep hiding what he is doing while trying to destroy anyone who crosses him? Is that fair?

I would have to think they just might suspect Gailon and Bob might keep copies,don't you?

No, I don't believe he is innocent. 
Bob and Gailon have said I think they don't intend to drop the lawsuit. But sometimes you just end up biting the bullet.

Very little about life is fair,I have a mighty long list as do most people about what "is not fair"

Let them battle it out in a courtroom if possible,give your own press release without trying to get a "big interview" for Bob.
Stop playing I Spy sin with any and all that are connected to 3ABN.

If you want your own live uprooted in the unlikely event the media would be interested,go for,but don't try to get others to go before you.

Quit with implication and innuendo. If something is true and warrents disclosure,do so,with out all the fancy footwork involved.
Title: Re: Questions I would Like to Ask Bob
Post by: Habanero on October 29, 2008, 12:30:13 PM
That would be fine and reasonable, Bonnie, except that in with Danny they are dealing with someone who doesn't walk away. They are dealing with someone for whom a fight is a fight to the finish. When this one is over someone will walk out of the ring and someone won't. I think Duane knows that when in a fight with Danny a person doesn't ever just bite the bullet and walk away. They will not be allowed to walk away. One battle may be closing, but the war is no where near done. Look at the Linda thing. Years later Danny and his minions still pursue her and they will continue until she is irreversably crushed and has no chance of standing again.
Title: Re: Questions I would Like to Ask Bob
Post by: bonnie on October 29, 2008, 12:58:50 PM
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That would be fine and reasonable, Bonnie, except that in with Danny they are dealing with someone who doesn't walk away. They are dealing with someone for whom a fight is a fight to the finish. When this one is over someone will walk out of the ring and someone won't. I think Duane knows that when in a fight with Danny a person doesn't ever just bite the bullet and walk away. They will not be allowed to walk away. One battle may be closing, but the war is no where near done. Look at the Linda thing. Years later Danny and his minions still pursue her and they will continue until she is irreversably crushed and has no chance of standing again.

Most people realize I don't walk away from a fight easily,not if in my heart of hearts I believe I am right.
That isn't the point here. If they feel they must pursue it,do so with  honesty and straightforwardness.

When I saw what bob did with the "Explosive Charges" topic,it did not take much to realize it was just a little pretense and sneakiness involved. Frankly, from that point on I have not readily believed what he had to say.
Small in the scheme of things,but if you pretend and use sneaky tactics in minor things I am not going to bother to sift thru the major issues to see what I can believe.
Instead of putting it together and then letting members here see it and give their opinion,it was done using artiste to pretend she just stumbled across this very explosive video. That is poppycock. Interesting that the so called interview was done by someone no one has ever heard off nor have they since.
This,when it concerns people's life and deals with a religious group is far to serious to play this kind of childish game.
Same with Phipps,the I regret,baloney. It could not get on here fast enough with the horrifying news that there was a sabbath breaker connected to 3ABN.

This stuff is serious. The war is never won.  That does not excuse unethical,sneaky pretense to try to pile a little more on.
There should be none of this sly innuendo from people that just sort of seem to drop from the sky. If you have facts and you believe it to be important,out with it. If not and it is done just to smear a little more or add suspicion, the ones doing so are no better than the ones they are after.
Maybe she is or still feels pursued because there are so many that appear to keep shoving her name and list of woes ahead of them.
And when all is said and done,no matter how long this goes,no one can fix it for her.
No one can fix it for TS alleged victims,that sadly at this stage of the game isn't going to happen.
Title: Re: Questions I would Like to Ask Bob
Post by: SDAminister on October 30, 2008, 09:06:37 PM

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FWIW,
In the beginning, 3ABN vainly tried to keep this whole lawsuit closed and away from the the media and even from any public view. But now, they are the ones notifying the media of the suit's current status. They issued a press release. A press release is intended for the press. Should they care if it is the Enquirer or Newsweek?

Big difference in a press release even if not truthful and what you want done.

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BTW, if it wasn't for the National Enquirer, John Edwards would probably be the Democrat V.P. candidate today. Or did they step out of line by running the story of his affair and "love" child?

John Edwards has nothing to do with this.

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I would be interested in knowing how many news organizations 3ABN faxed that press release to. Bonnie, maybe you should start a new thread "Questions I would like to ask 3ABN" and make this your first question. And did you notice the many falsehoods and inaccuracies in that press release?


I couldn't care less. I doubt it would be that many tho,most would not be aware there was a lawsuit to give a press release over.
You know as well as I, what you are looking to accommplish is everything you know being played out in the media. You can always ask them how many.



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1. "The Board made the difficult decision to file a lawsuit after first applying biblical principles on conflict resolution."   Which Bible were they using? New World Translation? Did they apply biblical principles which forbid they suing of a brother in a worldly court? Or is the testimony by at least two apostles not clear enough?
2. "The suit came only after 3ABN tried to persuade Mr. Pickle and Mr. Joy to shut down websites they owned and operated which were being used to spread disparaging statements about 3ABN, and its founder and past president, Danny Shelton. "  I'll spot you two and see if you can find the third: Did Mr. Pickle own these sites?; Was Danny "founder" or "co-founder"? And you guessed the third, there are no disparaging statements proved yet!


What did you expect them to put in the press relase.
Why not go about your business of counter suing .The one wanting the media should take the responsibilty for doing so.
If the media were interested they will look closely at the accuser as wel. Maybe on second thought it would not be a bad idea



SDAminister
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Bonnie,
The way you signed the above post using my user name is not appropriate and has the potential to misconstrue my position in this affair.

Furthermore, you state "Why not go about your business of counter suing .The one wanting the media should take the responsibilty for doing so."
I am not involved in any counter suing. I am not a party on either the plaintiff's or the defendant's side. I am not Gailon. I am not Bob. I am not Danny. I am not Linda. I am not even Mark Finley. So, the "your business of counter suing" statement is false.

SDAminister
Title: Re: Questions I would Like to Ask Bob
Post by: Johann on November 08, 2008, 01:33:55 PM
That would be fine and reasonable, Bonnie, except that in with Danny they are dealing with someone who doesn't walk away. They are dealing with someone for whom a fight is a fight to the finish. When this one is over someone will walk out of the ring and someone won't. I think Duane knows that when in a fight with Danny a person doesn't ever just bite the bullet and walk away. They will not be allowed to walk away. One battle may be closing, but the war is no where near done. Look at the Linda thing. Years later Danny and his minions still pursue her and they will continue until she is irreversably crushed and has no chance of standing again.

Is there a good reason why we should be quiet about this?
Title: Re: Questions I would Like to Ask Bob
Post by: bonnie on November 08, 2008, 02:18:06 PM
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Is there a good reason why we should be quiet about this?

Not sure where you are getting this. I didn't say to keep anything quiet as far as I can tell. Maybe you were referring to someone else.


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Title: Re: Questions I would Like to Ask Bob
Post by: Johann on November 08, 2008, 02:25:42 PM
Haven't seen you for some time, Bonnie. Have you been saying some nice things about AT elsewhere? Give us your friendly report.

That note was for Habanero. You want to have a part in it too?
Title: Re: Questions I would Like to Ask Bob
Post by: bonnie on November 08, 2008, 02:29:38 PM
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Haven't seen you for some time, Bonnie. Have you been saying some nice things about AT elsewhere? Give us your friendly report.

That note was for Habanero. You want to have a part in it too?

I think if you go back and reread you will see I was not sure
Maybe you were referring to someone else.

What is it you would like to hear in a report??

Title: Re: Questions I would Like to Ask Bob
Post by: Johann on November 08, 2008, 02:39:07 PM
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Haven't seen you for some time, Bonnie. Have you been saying some nice things about AT elsewhere? Give us your friendly report.

That note was for Habanero. You want to have a part in it too?

I think if you go back and reread you will see I was not sure
Maybe you were referring to someone else.

What is it you would like to hear in a report??



"In this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes." Benjamin Franklin in 1789

"Whatsoever things are true, . . . whatsoever things are of good report. . ."  St. Paul
Title: Re: Questions I would Like to Ask Bob
Post by: bonnie on November 08, 2008, 02:46:15 PM
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"Whatsoever things are true, . . . whatsoever things are of good report. . ."  St. Paul

That would make a good logo for adventtalk
Title: Re: Questions I would Like to Ask Bob
Post by: Johann on November 08, 2008, 02:52:41 PM
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"Whatsoever things are true, . . . whatsoever things are of good report. . ."  St. Paul

That would make a good logo for adventtalk

Thank you for that suggestion, Bonnie.

And now I'm really going to tell you off, Bonnie. Ready?

On the other hand this is not only for Bonnie, but for all. When you quote, please leave the top there so we can see who you are quoting. That makes it so much easier communicating with you. It can  be frustrating looking all over to find the source to see what we are really addressing.

Will you please do that from now on - all of you?
Title: Re: Questions I would Like to Ask Bob
Post by: bonnie on November 08, 2008, 02:55:25 PM
Why certainly
Title: Re: Questions I would Like to Ask Bob
Post by: bonnie on November 08, 2008, 02:57:54 PM
It might be helpful as well to return to the topic.You know how some can really get upset if a topic wanders.
This was really asking Bob a couple of questions
Title: Re: Questions I would Like to Ask Bob
Post by: Johann on November 08, 2008, 03:06:05 PM
It might be helpful as well to return to the topic.You know how some can really get upset if a topic wanders.
This was really asking Bob a couple of questions

I'm not quite that easily offended. . .
Title: Re: Questions I would Like to Ask Bob
Post by: Snoopy on November 08, 2008, 03:11:25 PM
Who gets "really upset" bonnie??

It might be helpful as well to return to the topic.You know how some can really get upset if a topic wanders.
This was really asking Bob a couple of questions
Title: Re: Questions I would Like to Ask Bob
Post by: bonnie on November 08, 2008, 03:11:46 PM
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I'm not quite that easily offended. . .

I said some might be. But it is better to stay on topic,as in what does the MN conference and the GC think of Bob's request to others to round up interviews for him.
He should probably use the same interview source as he did for "Explosive Charges"
Title: Re: Questions I would Like to Ask Bob
Post by: bonnie on November 08, 2008, 03:13:42 PM
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Who gets "really upset" bonnie??

Good evening snoopy. The last one I saw get really upset was Edward. That seemed to spark no ends of "upset"


Title: Re: Questions I would Like to Ask Bob
Post by: bonnie on November 08, 2008, 03:16:18 PM
I am sure as moderator you are appreciative when posters keep on topic. We probably should get back to Bob or at least let him have a chance to respond
Title: Re: Questions I would Like to Ask Bob
Post by: Snoopy on November 08, 2008, 03:21:41 PM
bonnie,

I am so appreciative of your efforts to help keep things "on topic"!!

Thank you!! 

 :dogwag:....."Sweet Snoopy"


I am sure as moderator you are appreciative when posters keep on topic. We probably should get back to Bob or at least let him have a chance to respond
Title: Re: Questions I would Like to Ask Bob
Post by: Daryl Fawcett on November 08, 2008, 03:24:12 PM
I agree about getting back to being on topic.
Title: Re: Questions I would Like to Ask Bob
Post by: bonnie on November 08, 2008, 03:24:39 PM
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bonnie,

I am so appreciative of your efforts to help keep things "on topic"!!

Thank you!! 

 :dogwag:....."Sweet Snoopy";


Anytime, glad to be of help
Title: Re: Questions I would Like to Ask Bob
Post by: Johann on November 08, 2008, 03:32:56 PM
I am sure as moderator you are appreciative when posters keep on topic. We probably should get back to Bob or at least let him have a chance to respond

Shall we roast him?

Willl you bring the trimmings?
Title: Re: Questions I would Like to Ask Bob
Post by: Johann on November 08, 2008, 03:40:04 PM
I agree about getting back to being on topic.

Aren't we lucky to have Daryl still with us?

All give him a clap!

(Was this too far off topic?)
Title: Re: Questions I would Like to Ask Bob
Post by: bonnie on November 08, 2008, 03:47:13 PM
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Shall we roast him?

Willl you bring the trimmings?

I am trying to figure out why this particular topic has such importance to you. One that has been up since 10-28.
I asked Bob some questions,if that implies a roast in your mind so be it.

I was not rude,I simply asked Bob. He has elected not to answer and now you seem bent on taking it my direction.
Just seems odd that it has been up for sometime and now suddenly it has your attention
Title: Re: Questions I would Like to Ask Bob
Post by: Snoopy on November 08, 2008, 03:58:10 PM
Actually bonnie, if you go back and read, Johann responded to something Habanero posted.  But you jumped in and made it about you!!  Go ahead - go back and look!


I am trying to figure out why this particular topic has such importance to you. One that has been up since 10-28.
I asked Bob some questions,if that implies a roast in your mind so be it.

I was not rude,I simply asked Bob. He has elected not to answer and now you seem bent on taking it my direction.
Just seems odd that it has been up for sometime and now suddenly it has your attention
Title: Re: Questions I would Like to Ask Bob
Post by: bonnie on November 08, 2008, 04:07:56 PM
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Actually bonnie, if you go back and read, Johann responded to something Habanero posted.  But you jumped in and made it about you!!  Go ahead - go back and look!


No Snoopy, you need to look


Not sure where you are getting this. I didn't say to keep anything quiet as far as I can tell. Maybe you were referring to someone else.


There was nothing that habanero  said that indicated being quiet about this so I was not sure. I did question who he was referring to.
If that is against your rules or if a response and question to another poster makes it about me, so be it.
As habanero had addressed me in this topic and I responded to him was unsure.


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Title: Re: Questions I would Like to Ask Bob
Post by: Snoopy on November 08, 2008, 04:12:30 PM
Sorry bonnie, but Johann made this post in response to Habanero.

That would be fine and reasonable, Bonnie, except that in with Danny they are dealing with someone who doesn't walk away. They are dealing with someone for whom a fight is a fight to the finish. When this one is over someone will walk out of the ring and someone won't. I think Duane knows that when in a fight with Danny a person doesn't ever just bite the bullet and walk away. They will not be allowed to walk away. One battle may be closing, but the war is no where near done. Look at the Linda thing. Years later Danny and his minions still pursue her and they will continue until she is irreversably crushed and has no chance of standing again.

Is there a good reason why we should be quiet about this?
Title: Re: Questions I would Like to Ask Bob
Post by: Eduard on November 08, 2008, 04:14:01 PM
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I was not rude,I simply asked Bob. He has elected not to answer and now you seem bent on taking it my direction.
Just seems odd that it has been up for sometime and now suddenly it has your attention



bonnie,

Asking someone a question is all right if you are considerate enough to remember that it is the absolute choice of the individual to decide whether to answer or not your question. Repeating again and again the question is offensive and shows poor manners and rudeness. It might also be important for you to remember that Bob is not working for you. Or does he?


Eduard

Title: Re: Questions I would Like to Ask Bob
Post by: Snoopy on November 08, 2008, 04:15:16 PM
Then you, bonnie, jumped in with this:

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Is there a good reason why we should be quiet about this?

Not sure where you are getting this. I didn't say to keep anything quiet as far as I can tell. Maybe you were referring to someone else.


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To which Johann responded to you with this:


Haven't seen you for some time, Bonnie. Have you been saying some nice things about AT elsewhere? Give us your friendly report.

That note was for Habanero. You want to have a part in it too?
Title: Re: Questions I would Like to Ask Bob
Post by: Eduard on November 08, 2008, 04:20:06 PM
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Actually bonnie, if you go back and read, Johann responded to something Habanero posted.  But you jumped in and made it about you!!  Go ahead - go back and look!

There was nothing that habanero  said that indicated being quiet about this so I was not sure. I did question who he was referring to.
If that is against your rules or if a response and question to another poster makes it about me, so be it.


bonnie,

As I mentioned before, the trouble is that you act very often as if you are an expert on every matter discussed in this forum. But, as you mentioned in a previous post, you are not an expert in ANYTHING, so responding to every post and every question whether it is addressed to you or not is inappropriate and rude.

Eduard

Title: Re: Questions I would Like to Ask Bob
Post by: bonnie on November 08, 2008, 04:25:40 PM
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bonnie,

Asking someone a question is all right if you are considerate enough to remember that it is the absolute choice of the individual to decide whether to answer or not your question. Repeating again and again the question is offensive and shows poor manners and rudeness. It might also be important for you to remember that Bob is not working for you. Or does he?

I didn't bring this backup,Johann did. I was not certain who he was referring to so said so.

I did not ask Bob anything for a long time.
Shall we discuss rudness Edward. This topic had nothing to do with you and once again here you are, not once but twice. Thats okay tho, you sound like you are in a better mood. Hope so,it is a drag to go around bitter and nasty all the time.

Does Bob work for me?? NOPE Why do I need to remember that. As far as last report Bob doesn't work for anyone,he is without a job.




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Title: Re: Questions I would Like to Ask Bob
Post by: bonnie on November 08, 2008, 04:31:57 PM
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There was nothing that habanero  said that indicated being quiet about this so I was not sure. I did question who he was referring to.
If that is against your rules or if a response and question to another poster makes it about me, so be it.

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bonnie,

As I mentioned before, the trouble is that you act very often as if you are an expert on every matter discussed in this forum. But, as you mentioned in a previous post, you are not an expert in ANYTHING, so responding to every post and every question whether it is addressed to you or not is inappropriate and rude.

Eduard

Can you fill me in on what there was to be an expert in?? Asking Bob questions he doesn't want to answer. Now Edward is there something that states you must be an expert to ask a question. Goodness that is how most people learn.

I know that you and snoopy won't see the irony in this.......
so responding to every post and every question whether it is addressed to you or not is inappropriate and rude.

This is you Edward, laying in wait to pounce anytime you can in my direction. Thats okay tho,it may relieve the tension for you. You always seem to be very tense and angry.

Title: Re: Questions I would Like to Ask Bob
Post by: Snoopy on November 08, 2008, 05:07:15 PM
Seems to me that YOU brought Eduard into this thread with this post:

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Who gets "really upset" bonnie??

Good evening snoopy. The last one I saw get really upset was Edward. That seemed to spark no ends of "upset"



Title: Re: Questions I would Like to Ask Bob
Post by: Snoopy on November 08, 2008, 05:08:28 PM
And in just the last couple of hours, Johann very respectfully asked you to include the name of the poster you are quoting.  Yet you refuse.

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There was nothing that habanero  said that indicated being quiet about this so I was not sure. I did question who he was referring to.
If that is against your rules or if a response and question to another poster makes it about me, so be it.

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bonnie,

As I mentioned before, the trouble is that you act very often as if you are an expert on every matter discussed in this forum. But, as you mentioned in a previous post, you are not an expert in ANYTHING, so responding to every post and every question whether it is addressed to you or not is inappropriate and rude.

Eduard

Can you fill me in on what there was to be an expert in?? Asking Bob questions he doesn't want to answer. Now Edward is there something that states you must be an expert to ask a question. Goodness that is how most people learn.

I know that you and snoopy won't see the irony in this.......
so responding to every post and every question whether it is addressed to you or not is inappropriate and rude.

This is you Edward, laying in wait to pounce anytime you can in my direction. Thats okay tho,it may relieve the tension for you. You always seem to be very tense and angry.


Title: Re: Questions I would Like to Ask Bob
Post by: bonnie on November 08, 2008, 05:12:35 PM
Seems to me that YOU brought Eduard into this thread with this post:

If that is all it took for Edward to begin again,my apologies. It was not intended to bring Edward into the thread. He is just the last one I saw get so upset.

Maybe to many are just waiting to pounce.






Title: Re: Questions I would Like to Ask Bob
Post by: bonnie on November 08, 2008, 05:14:21 PM
And in just the last couple of hours, Johann very respectfully asked you to include the name of the poster you are quoting.  Yet you refuse.

No I didn't refuse I was doing more than one thing at once and did not think about it.

Title: Re: Questions I would Like to Ask Bob
Post by: Habanero on November 08, 2008, 05:31:50 PM
Lol! This is like Alice's rabbit hole. It would make no sense except to the mad hatter. Oh well, I'll join in.

See, someone once said that the statement was vertical in a boolean sense, but without the contracted reaction that didn't take place on the third dawning of the fiber lodged in the cross-member that had been held to account for the ledger of leaps, there was no non-linear filing of the address that was given in the shadow of emulated sub-particular foam issuing from the cavitacious forward, in the light of lunar compulsion.
Title: Re: Questions I would Like to Ask Bob
Post by: GrandmaNettie on November 08, 2008, 06:16:26 PM
Lol! This is like Alice's rabbit hole. It would make no sense except to the mad hatter. Oh well, I'll join in.

See, someone once said that the statement was vertical in a boolean sense, but without the contracted reaction that didn't take place on the third dawning of the fiber lodged in the cross-member that had been held to account for the ledger of leaps, there was no non-linear filing of the address that was given in the shadow of emulated sub-particular foam issuing from the cavitacious forward, in the light of lunar compulsion.

Oh Hab...  you're mixing nanobots and buckyballs.

Just choose the red pill or the blue pill and verify the lunar effect on the flow of mud.
Title: Re: Questions I would Like to Ask Bob
Post by: bonnie on November 08, 2008, 06:33:20 PM
Lol! This is like Alice's rabbit hole. It would make no sense except to the mad hatter. Oh well, I'll join in.

See, someone once said that the statement was vertical in a boolean sense, but without the contracted reaction that didn't take place on the third dawning of the fiber lodged in the cross-member that had been held to account for the ledger of leaps, there was no non-linear filing of the address that was given in the shadow of emulated sub-particular foam issuing from the cavitacious forward, in the light of lunar compulsion.



Oh Hab...  you're mixing nanobots and buckyballs.

Just choose the red pill or the blue pill and verify the lunar effect on the flow of mud.


I do really think you guys are seriously off topic. ***** ***** *** **** ****


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Title: Re: Questions I would Like to Ask Bob
Post by: Artiste on November 08, 2008, 07:31:18 PM
ADMIN HAT ON

Please remember to avoid references to Administration policies or actions in the public forum.

ADMIN HAT OFF
 
Title: Re: Questions I would Like to Ask Bob
Post by: Johann on November 09, 2008, 12:13:41 AM
Lol! This is like Alice's rabbit hole. It would make no sense except to the mad hatter. Oh well, I'll join in.

See, someone once said that the statement was vertical in a boolean sense, but without the contracted reaction that didn't take place on the third dawning of the fiber lodged in the cross-member that had been held to account for the ledger of leaps, there was no non-linear filing of the address that was given in the shadow of emulated sub-particular foam issuing from the cavitacious forward, in the light of lunar compulsion.

So refreshing to see someone using picturesque expressions which make the imagination flow. Too bad it flows, at times, in the wrong direction in some minds.
Title: Re: Questions I would Like to Ask Bob
Post by: Emma on November 09, 2008, 01:15:40 AM
Lol! This is like Alice's rabbit hole. It would make no sense except to the mad hatter. Oh well, I'll join in.

See, someone once said that the statement was vertical in a boolean sense, but without the contracted reaction that didn't take place on the third dawning of the fiber lodged in the cross-member that had been held to account for the ledger of leaps, there was no non-linear filing of the address that was given in the shadow of emulated sub-particular foam issuing from the cavitacious forward, in the light of lunar compulsion.

So refreshing to see someone using picturesque expressions which make the imagination flow. Too bad it flows, at times, in the wrong direction in some minds.

I think every one of you risks getting collywobbles in the parallelogram.
Title: Re: Questions I would Like to Ask Bob
Post by: Johann on November 09, 2008, 04:00:51 AM
Lol! This is like Alice's rabbit hole. It would make no sense except to the mad hatter. Oh well, I'll join in.

See, someone once said that the statement was vertical in a boolean sense, but without the contracted reaction that didn't take place on the third dawning of the fiber lodged in the cross-member that had been held to account for the ledger of leaps, there was no non-linear filing of the address that was given in the shadow of emulated sub-particular foam issuing from the cavitacious forward, in the light of lunar compulsion.

So refreshing to see someone using picturesque expressions which make the imagination flow. Too bad it flows, at times, in the wrong direction in some minds.

I think every one of you risks getting collywobbles in the parallelogram.

What is the best medication for that ailment?
Title: Re: Questions I would Like to Ask Bob
Post by: Eduard on November 09, 2008, 05:41:15 AM
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Who gets "really upset" bonnie??

Good evening snoopy. The last one I saw get really upset was Edward. That seemed to spark no ends of "upset"


bonnie,

Let's set the record straight: I get "upset" very, very seldom, and never "really upset." Actually, I don't remember the last time I got upset. I wake up happy every morning, and I maintain this disposition all through the day. My life could not be better than it is now. Your posts, or anyone's posts on this forum could not have an "upset" effect for me. On the contrary, they increase my good disposition. You are making various malicious assumptions about me without any kind of support for your accusations. You don't know me, and know nothing about me. How would you know what is my disposition when you read my posts? Could your mean accusation and insults, and misreading of my posts be due to your poor language skills?

You said that people learn by asking questions. That seems to be right. Now, I have a question for you: How do you call someone who bugs into everyone's business, who nags and harasses everybody who doesn't agree with her, who insults and demeans constantly all people who support Bob and Gailon, who attacks day and night those who want justice to be done at 3ABN, who claims to know how people feel and what they think, who demands answers to her questions as if those answers are owed to her, all the time ignoring basic rules of manner and politeness?

Eduard




Title: Re: Questions I would Like to Ask Bob
Post by: bonnie on November 09, 2008, 06:38:35 AM
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Who gets "really upset" bonnie??

You do Edward

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Good evening snoopy. The last one I saw get really upset was Edward. That seemed to spark no ends of "upset"



1. Let's set the record straight: I get "upset" very, very seldom, and never "really upset." Actually, I don't remember the last time I got upset. I wake up happy every morning, and I maintain this disposition all through the day. My life could not be better than it is now.


If that is the case I would hate to be around when you get upset.  



2 Your posts, or anyone's posts on this forum could not have an "upset" effect for me. On the contrary, they increase my good disposition. You are making various malicious assumptions about me without any kind of support for your accusations. You don't know me, and know nothing about me. How would you know what is my disposition when you read my posts? Could your mean accusation and insults, and misreading of my posts be due to your poor language skills?

 I don't recall personally misreading anything you have posted. I do recall when I first noticed you on the board you were expert and nasty to someone. Not much seems to have changed  


3. You said that people learn by asking questions. That seems to be right. Now, I have a question for you: How do you call someone who bugs into everyone's business, who nags and harasses everybody who doesn't agree with her, who insults and demeans constantly all people who support Bob and Gailon, who attacks day and night those who want justice to be done at 3ABN, who claims to know how people feel and what they think, who demands answers to her questions as if those answers are owed to her, all the time ignoring basic rules of manner and politeness?

Let see,I asked  Bob a question on Oct 28th. It was apparant that Bob would not answer a couple of simple questions. Or they should have been simple for most.
I did not DEMAND anything from Bob or anyone else.
Are you stretching things a bit.

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Title: Re: Questions I would Like to Ask Bob
Post by: bonnie on November 09, 2008, 07:18:29 AM
I went back thru your posts this morning and there isn't any difference in nastiness,nsulting,and as rude as one can get in response to many people.Is this the "good humor" you claim I misrepresented concerning you.
 




 
63   Issues & Concerns Category / 3ABN / Re: "single ... statement remotely related to Danny Shelton's personal finances  on: June 05, 2008, 02:21:32 PM 
Quote from: Ian on June 05, 2008, 09:28:59 AM
Quote from: Eduard on June 05, 2008, 08:30:18 AM
Quote from: anyman on June 04, 2008, 09:43:58 PM
Here is a question for you Mr. Pickle is the piece of fruit in my hand a pear?

Make sense?

Nope.

Why?

Because there is no context. Just like this ridiculous post of yours which is absent any context whatsoever. Have the guts to put up the whole thing and let the world have a chance to decide if you are manipulating these words. But you won't because it would prove you are manipulating things and misleading people. Why don't you treat your readership with some decency and not assume they don't think for themselves.



Quote from: Bob Pickle on June 04, 2008, 09:33:06 PM
Quote from: Jerrie Hayes and Lizette Richards, May 29, 2008
... the single defamatory statement remotely related to Danny Shelton’s personal finances would make relevant only the title, purchase documents and payment information for a Toyota Sequoia automobile [Complaint ¶ 50(g)].

Does this statement make sense to anyone?



Post edited by Snoopy to remove offensive quote from the prior post.

It would seem that the admin did not share you definition of good humor either. There are many more that exhibit your "good humor

Why do you insist on posting personal insults, put downs  and ridicule Eduard? So many of your posts are like this. I found the post about asking for a requiem for Danny totally unecessary and mean, and mocking anymans education or intellect is certainly not necessary?

Do you have some hurt or anger causing this and can I help in some way? It's distressing to me and I worry about you, but at the same time I have a hard time accepting anything you write as to me it is all so ugly and  just outright rude. Can't you just address the topics of discussion?

maybe you don't see this yourself? Maybe I am wrong, as the moderators don't seem to have a problem with with what you say or how you talk about fellow members..




Ian,


Shakespeare said somewhere that truth turns words into daggers. The statements I have made so far in this forum are nothing but true and precise evaluations of the messages posted by you, Donna, Junebug, anyman, and others who defend Danny Shelton. My messages may not sound politically correct when formulated as I did so far, but they are not at all different IN ESSENCE from the insults your group piles on Pickle and Joy every day. Constant efforts from your group to twist the truth, and to deceive those who read the posts in this forum are EVEN MORE OFFESIVE than the posts I make because behind the false politeness with which you write your messages hides their true spirit, the UGLINESS OF DECEPTION.


God is TRUE, and His message is TRUTHFUL. Satan is THE FATHER OF LIES, and his goal is to spread DECEPTION. The messages of your group do not contain truth, but deception. Those who love the truth hate deception and are outraged by it.


Eduard






 
 
Title: Re: Questions I would Like to Ask Bob
Post by: bonnie on November 09, 2008, 07:23:29 AM
This one shows you in a very good humor..




 
48   Issues & Concerns Category / 3ABN / Re: eBay Sales Controversy?  on: June 29, 2008, 06:29:44 AM 

"sam,"

People here and in other forums have mentioned again and again how they have been watched, threatened on the phone, had their computers destroyed, and their very lives threatened. Just in the past months subpoenas have been served to different forums against those who have deared to bring to light the evil deeds of your master, Danny Shelton. What else needs to follow? Murder? Because this is all that is left, and I don't know if you and the bunch of thugs and TERRORISTS you belong to would have any conscience troubles going even so far. I am still trying to classify you: NEO NAZI? FASCISTS? A modern branch of the KU KLUX KLAN who doesn't discriminate between colors?


When people like Danny Shelton and his thugs ( among whom are you, "anyman," "Ian," "Donna," and others) launch an assault on thousands of people in a desperate effort to hide the truth about Danny Shelton's gross mistreatment of Linda, his deceptive financial dealings, his dirty personal life, and his intimidating and threatening actions, including the hiring of ELEVEN ATTORNEYS in an attempt to silence TWO BROKE AMATEURS, then SOMETHING BIG IS HIDING IN THE "PROPHET'S CLOSET."


Your hysterical propaganda in Danny Shelton's favor, the distortion of FACTS, the misdirection of information, and all similar tactics are a WASTE OF TIME. You are dealing on this forum with intelligent people who know to separate FACT from FICTION, TRUTH from DECEPTION.

Go and hang out with your gang of thugs. You are not needed or welcomed here. I think that I can speak for most of us here on this forum in this matter.

Eduard





Quote from: Eduard on June 27, 2008, 07:08:54 AM

 
 
Title: Re: Questions I would Like to Ask Bob
Post by: bonnie on November 09, 2008, 07:28:29 AM
 
31   Issues & Concerns Category / 3ABN / Re: Has 3ABN been cleared of all wrongdoing?  on: July 03, 2008, 07:09:26 AM 
Quote from: Gailon Arthur Joy on July 02, 2008, 10:15:58 PM
A word on the self-appointed exonerator known as STAN JENSON: The only reliable information he has given the world is that his source is reliable, that he has finally come out of the closet as a true blue DANNYITE, a specific prejudice I have accused him of in the past, and has joined his Fish in the fishbowl....turn the spotlight on the fishbowl and you will understand the level of Stan's OPINION!!!

Stan is like many adventist administrators, he is looking and searching diligently for more butter for his bread, but can't find the butter when it is right under his nose. The obvious is just too obvious for Stan. Besides, ignorance is Bliss!!!



Gailon Arthur Joy



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Gailon,

As one who has known Stan Jensen for many years, I believe that his only "expertise" is in FAST FOOD.

Eduard


Here we have Edward the good humor man inserting himself in a post not directed at him or to him.




 edited to correct spelling
Title: Re: Questions I would Like to Ask Bob
Post by: bonnie on November 09, 2008, 07:37:14 AM
Again the good humor man. BTW,didn't you have difficulty on another forum because of your continual good humor. Seems to me I read that in a post directed to you. Insulting,rude.



  Issues & Concerns Category / 3ABN / Re: Did you hear the news?  on: June 29, 2008, 09:07:47 AM 
"Nosier Mazing,"

Would you be able to identify a Pronoun/Antecedent error in this small sentence you have written?



"After some consideration, It seems likely to me that someone has allowed their disgruntled adolescent to access the internet without supervision."

I guess not! Sorry, I am asking too much of you!


I have read ALL YOUR POSTS, and in my PROFESSIONAL opinion they are all lacking CONTENT. Do you know what this means? Probably not!


Eduard


PS here is another particularly good humored post from Edward.


"junebug,"

I obliged, and went to the website you have indicated to read the GREAT NEWS." Well, I have to say, I am indeed impressed!! To fill three pages with ABSOLUTELY NOTHING requires a very low IQ, and I am not used to be in the company of such people. So, I am learning!

I did not know that Danny Shelton had his own sect of brainwashed people who worship him, and are on call to do his dirty work. I hope all this "religion" will not end up with all his disciples somewhere in the bushes of Illionis drinking lethal stuff.

Eduard



edited to add PS


 
Title: Re: Questions I would Like to Ask Bob
Post by: bonnie on November 09, 2008, 07:48:08 AM
I think that should be enough to show you that I "understand your good humor".

I did not say one word that was false or malicious. You can deny till the second coming that you are not rude to all that oppose you and it will not change what you have  shown and .posted
This is a particularly charming one . Again attempting to show your great intellect and to insult another poster.

You give a whole new definition to a good humor and happy man



Edward said
{quote]Child_of_God,

So, we are on the same level in our use of the English language? Well, this is interesting. Do you also perform surgery,  fly stealth planes, teach in college, write prescriptions, perform the work of an attorney, command ships, and act as the secretary of state because "That is what our Lord taught"? Is that statement in the notebook bible you scribbled with your pencil? I checked, and I could not find those words in the numerous Bibles in various languages that rest on my bookshelves.

I guess you are already firm in your conviction that as a child-of-gd you are chosen to do anything you please, whether you have the education or the skills for that kind of work or not. You know, what you are claiming is not new to me. I hear such words all the time from the backwoods hicks who cannot even scribble their names on the ground.

Eduard [/quote]

Title: Re: Questions I would Like to Ask Bob
Post by: Snoopy on November 09, 2008, 09:11:46 AM
And you continue to refuse, bonnie.  When quoting a post, the software automatically provides the complete quote information, so you have to actually take time to delete that to quote posts the way you do, so I'm not buying the argument that "I just wasn't thinking".

And in just the last couple of hours, Johann very respectfully asked you to include the name of the poster you are quoting.  Yet you refuse.

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There was nothing that habanero  said that indicated being quiet about this so I was not sure. I did question who he was referring to.
If that is against your rules or if a response and question to another poster makes it about me, so be it.

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bonnie,

As I mentioned before, the trouble is that you act very often as if you are an expert on every matter discussed in this forum. But, as you mentioned in a previous post, you are not an expert in ANYTHING, so responding to every post and every question whether it is addressed to you or not is inappropriate and rude.

Eduard

Can you fill me in on what there was to be an expert in?? Asking Bob questions he doesn't want to answer. Now Edward is there something that states you must be an expert to ask a question. Goodness that is how most people learn.

I know that you and snoopy won't see the irony in this.......
so responding to every post and every question whether it is addressed to you or not is inappropriate and rude.

This is you Edward, laying in wait to pounce anytime you can in my direction. Thats okay tho,it may relieve the tension for you. You always seem to be very tense and angry.


Title: Re: Questions I would Like to Ask Bob
Post by: Snoopy on November 09, 2008, 09:12:46 AM
This thread is going nowhere fast, so before we get there I'm closing it.