Advent Talk
Issues & Concerns Category => 3ABN => Topic started by: Artiste on November 09, 2011, 07:55:48 PM
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In sports terms, it is my impression that Penn State has trumped 3ABN in their handling of the recent boy molestation charges against an underling in the football department.
The head football coach has been fired immediately instead of being able to finish out the year and then retire. . . and he's not the one who did the molesting.
The University President has also stepped down over the mishandling of the problem.
Contrast this with 3ABN's treatment of the child molester as well as the president at the time.
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Does the message justify the difference, or should it have been enforced even more?
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Should have been enforced even more.
Pundits are now discussing the multiple lawsuits that will be filed against the University.
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Lessons to be learned:
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/10/opinion/lessons-from-the-penn-state-scandal.html
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Here's one response:
"If any adult is told that a child might be in danger, the duty to report is not to a supervisor but to the child protective service of the community. Forget about chain of command at a university or a church or a youth organization. One does not need to have “proof.” One needs to know how to dial 911 and report one’s honest concern."
PHYLLIS NELSON
Austin, Tex., Nov. 8, 2011
(The writer is a clinical social worker.)
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Honestly,
If it has been reported to you that your coworker has sexually molested a child you have an obligation to follow through and make sure that the authorities are notified. Rick, is not without fault in the situation he worked with the man for over 15 years and knew of his sickness towards children, male children. I have the sneaking suspicion that there has been a lot of covering up at Penn State.
Here's one response:
"If any adult is told that a child might be in danger, the duty to report is not to a supervisor but to the child protective service of the community. Forget about chain of command at a university or a church or a youth organization. One does not need to have “proof.” One needs to know how to dial 911 and report one’s honest concern."
PHYLLIS NELSON
Austin, Tex., Nov. 8, 2011
(The writer is a clinical social worker.)
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Actually, you could get fired for reporting child molestation.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/11/09/montana-mental-health-worked-who-reported-child-pornography-fired/?test=latestnews (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/11/09/montana-mental-health-worked-who-reported-child-pornography-fired/?test=latestnews)
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Here is another:
As the grandparent of five, I appreciate the warning advice against predators given by Frank Bruni.
I remain astounded that so many institutions (the Boy Scouts, the Catholic Church, Penn State) do so much to protect themselves and so little to protect the young people in their care.
BRUCE W. RIDER
Grapevine, Tex., Nov. 8, 2011
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There have been FIVE administrators fired from Penn State and the votes from the Board of Directors was unanimous on ALL five.
Accountability is swift with responsible and accountable boards. Note that the specific reason for Football Icon Joe Paterno's resignation is that he and the President did not do enough to INVESTIGATE the claims.
I specifically declare that Chairman Thompson of 3ABN did not do enough to investigate any claims when it came to the anointed one!!! Nor did the board do enough, in fact arrogantly did nothing, to investigate claims made against the anointed one...despite many direct demands to do so...stuck head in sand and burned through several million needless dollars...could have simply FIRED Danny Lee Shelton, Tommy Ray Shelton and the Chairman Thompson.
Given that Penn State Board moved so quickly and decisively, does logic dictate that they represent the REAL THREE ANGELS MESSAGE?? They certainly waxed hot!!!
And if that is true, then can we deduct that the Three Angels Broadcasting is the false Three angels Message? They certainly waxed "LUKEWARM to COLD"!!! And what happened to the Lukewarm? Yup, spit out!!!
So then, should we Sir Mise that the project developed to counteract the counterfeit is in fact THE COUNTERFEIT???
Here, Here!!! The Counterfeit is fully exposed by the Board of Directors of Penn State University!!!
Gailon Arthur Joy
AUReporter
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Good point, Gailon!
However it appears that there was coverup in the past at Penn State also.
"And, despite the fact that Ray Gricar had the mother of one of the alleged victims confront Sandusky while police listened, the 1998 report on Sandusky was labeled “unfounded” by the District Attorney’s Office, reports the Patriot-News."
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So coverups regarding homosexual pedophilia appear to be more common than otherwise -- there is the Catholic church, also.
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So coverups regarding homosexual pedophilia appear to be more common than otherwise -- there is the Catholic church, also.
Did you hear whom some of the victims in the Penn State case have hired as their attorney? Jeff Anderson. Now, where have I heard that name before..........?
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http://www.thepostgame.com/features/201111/another-era-and-another-sport-sex-abuse-scandal-still-inflicting-pain-today
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So coverups regarding homosexual pedophilia appear to be more common than otherwise -- there is the Catholic church, also.
Did you hear whom some of the victims in the Penn State case have hired as their attorney? Jeff Anderson. Now, where have I heard that name before..........?
Jeff Anderson...really! That's interesting!
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So coverups regarding homosexual pedophilia appear to be more common than otherwise -- there is the Catholic church, also.
Did you hear whom some of the victims in the Penn State case have hired as their attorney? Jeff Anderson. Now, where have I heard that name before..........?
Jeff Anderson...really! That's interesting!
May explain why he has been busy
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Clearly, Penn State has deeper pockets!!! Cost of an education at PSU is about to go UP substantially!!!
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http://news.yahoo.com/obama-penn-state-abuse-cause-soul-searching-021322662.html
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Not only is this guy sick beyond belief, but he's not very smart - going on national television and admitting the things he did. Where in the world is his attorney?
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I heard on the news that Penn State problem person Sandusky was allowed to continue his activities for 15 years after good reasons to question his behavior turned up.
That sounds to me very similar to the 3ABN situation.
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From "Jerry Sandusky's 'make-believe world' " (http://www.cnn.com/2011/11/19/us/sandusky-memoir-profile/index.html?hpt=hp_c1):
News of the Sandusky investigation first surfaced in the spring. The Patriot News in Harrisburg reported that a grand jury was looking into allegations of abuse, mentioning just two boys. Sandusky, it appears, attempted to do some damage control.
According to the grand jury report, he called one young man -- he had not spoken to him in two years -- in the weeks before his accuser was to testify. His wife and a family friend phoned, too; the calls were never returned, the report says.
Sounds so similar, doesn't it? Haven't Tommy and Danny done the same sort of apparent damage control?
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From "Jerry Sandusky's 'make-believe world' " (http://www.cnn.com/2011/11/19/us/sandusky-memoir-profile/index.html?hpt=hp_c1):
News of the Sandusky investigation first surfaced in the spring. The Patriot News in Harrisburg reported that a grand jury was looking into allegations of abuse, mentioning just two boys. Sandusky, it appears, attempted to do some damage control.
According to the grand jury report, he called one young man -- he had not spoken to him in two years -- in the weeks before his accuser was to testify. His wife and a family friend phoned, too; the calls were never returned, the report says.
Sounds so similar, doesn't it? Haven't Tommy and Danny done the same sort of apparent damage control?
I think that's what they have been doing at 3ABN...damage control.
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Another case:
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/news?slug=dw-wetzel_boeheim_must_speak_latest_fine_allegations_112711
Anybody see a pattern?
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Today I read the documents - many pages - in connection with the sentence of a 17 year old man in our neighborhood. He got two years in prison for talking a 14 year old girl away from a youth party and behind a school building where he thought everything was in the dark. Besides that he had to pay damages to the girl, her parents, and for three lawyers involved in the case.
The parents think he should have served a longer term. This was a 17 year old boy. What will it do to his future?
What about if he had been a grown-up pastor?
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http://verdict.justia.com/2011/12/29/2011s-lessons-on-how-we-can-better-protect-children-from-sexual-abuse
Any comments?