Advent Talk
Issues & Concerns Category => 3ABN => Topic started by: Murcielago on January 09, 2012, 08:28:20 PM
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Yay! A cruise!
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Additional seminars availabe!
Protecting Your Children From Harm - Tommy Shelton
Church Growth Through Pastoral Compassuon, Honesty And Integrty - Glenn Dryden
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Another zinger! You don't miss a trick!
Praying for you, Duane. Right this very second.
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Yay! A cruise!
It seems quite remarkable that Mr. Danny Shelton, a man with two divorces behind him, and one who has not yet settled with one of his former wives, is listed as one of those arranging such a cruise.
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Another zinger! You don't miss a trick!
Praying for you, Duane. Right this very second.
Whatever makes you feel better.
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Hey! Let's all sign up and go with them!! We could have some fun!!
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Hey! Let's all sign up and go with them!! We could have some fun!!
Why not?
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Unbelievable!
Danny Shelton presenting "Reason to Believe in Miracles".
And obviously the SDA Church is condoning this since they apparently do not object to the use of "SDA" as has occurred in the past with supposed trademark violations.
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"SDA Vacations Presents..."
Danny Shelton gets to tell his fraudulent miracle stories at sea!
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DANNY SHELTON
Danny Shelton is the founder of Three Angels Broadcasting Network (3ABN), a nonprofit organization with the vision to "mend broken people"through the powerful messages of God's Word. 3ABN's ministry accomplishes this goal with 24-hour-a-day television and radio networks, as well as the far-reaching ministries of 3ABN Books and 3ABN Music. www.dannyshelton.com
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That's quite a web site that Danny Shelton has!
Quote from page describing Danny's many virtues, written by Brenda Walsh:
"Danny Shelton is a man who loves the Lord with all his heart. I've known Danny all my life, ever since our parents and grandparents attended the same church in southern Illinois. I grew up listening to the musically talented and gifted Sheltons..."
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If Danny loves the Lord with all his heart, why did he lie to cover up Tommy's molesting of children?
Why did he divorce Linda?
Why did he accept kickbacks from Remnant for his PPPA booklets?
Why did he allow 3ABN to buy $3 million of his books in 2006, putting 3ABN $3 million in the red for the year?
Why did he allow 3ABN to sue us over that loss?
Why did he leave veiled threats on Glenn Dryden's answering machine?
And obviously the SDA Church is condoning this since they apparently do not object to the use of "SDA" as has occurred in the past with supposed trademark violations.
They may not condone it at all. Someone could call up GC general counsel, or whoever deals with trademark issues, and ask them if they condone this use.
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Isn't that what GC Attorney Walter Carson is famous for?
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That's quite a web site that Danny Shelton has!
Quote from page describing Danny's many virtues, written by Brenda Walsh:
"Danny Shelton is a man who loves the Lord with all his heart. I've known Danny all my life, ever since our parents and grandparents attended the same church in southern Illinois. I grew up listening to the musically talented and gifted Sheltons..."
Praising whom?
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Yay! A cruise!
Have been receiving notifications there are a few tickets still available!
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Yay! A cruise!
Have been receiving notifications there are a few tickets still available!
:ROFL:
You mean get a ticket to sail into the unknowns of ship diseases and whole ship sickness, piracy on the seas, murders, electric wipe outs to take days of towing to a shore and then get robbed, and people lost at sea, fires on ships and spooky little hallways of rapes and who knows what else. A place on high sea where all things can happen unrestricted by land law. I usually don't think tempting presumptions of dangerous actions can always be granted so.... a person that would not jump out a plane either Johann I would definitely say in this day and age....No Thank You :ROFL: I think sharks eat the missing. Its not like Jona times. :ROFL: Maybe they will all celeb with just a "little wine". and guess who pays really for the excursion. are we stupid or what?? :ROFL: Yes, something of great must be going to be accounted for or displayed.... :ROFL:
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Jumping out of airplanes: Don't knock it if you have not tried it. Try it and you might like it. NOTE: I used to do sport jumping. Nothing like it.
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I just have a thought of not tempting unnecessary feats of danger to energize any self accomplishments that are for a moments thrills. The only time I see any use for some of this is in the necessary feats for country protections.
To many other things that these lost moments can't do for the good of others. I am thankful and very cautious with the life the Lord has given me to take care of so I can care for others- and not laugh at calamities that I might cause for the feel of thrill. Never could figure out what the thrill is either for climbing rugged, snow covered barren mountains that bring death to many because of wanted thrill of just doing it. or the other of being in shark infested oceans snorkeling. The beauty that people see is not worth the bite. I 've always wondered why people think they have to defeat something you cant defeat for a moment of thrill. I will wait for all the thrills the Lord has in store at that time he chooses. :) I've enjoy so much safe things he has provided to enjoy more then last a life time that do not tempt or gamble with.
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My guess is that Danny & Yvonne will get married in the middle of this cruise.
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Is this a Family Restoration cruise or a Hair Restoration cruise????
Seminar: For the modern SDA woman, choosing the right hair color when sharing apostate "Pentecostal" truths. Presenter, Shelley Quinn
Seminar: Hair plugs and being a serial husband. Presenter, Danny Shelton
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Is this a Family Restoration cruise or a Hair Restoration cruise????
Seminar: For the modern SDA woman, choosing the right hair color when sharing apostate "Pentecostal" truths. Presenter, Shelley Quinn
Seminar: Hair plugs and being a serial husband. Presenter, Danny Shelton
:ROFL: I watched this new prison program just a couple days ago. Shelly was up front and evidently she was on tight timing schedule. "she said to them well I always preach for an hr." I will tell you the one thing I did not like about it. She was in front of ladies in prison with no way to have the essentials that women like to have I felt Shelly could have toned down her glamorous display in front of them when they all probably were made to feel inadequate to her. She needed her hair and clothes toned down quite a bit for them to not feel indicate of their own personal selves.
Are you sure there is Pentecostal women preachers. :ROFL: also her hair is not quite long enough for the Pentecostal look. and do you think that DS wants to change the Don Eagle? If a marriage takes place I will know without doubt the lunacy on both parts. But then it must be because they have same characteristics. "Display"
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Well, how did I miss this?!! I love to cruise, LOVED and western Caribbean cruise for sure! Maybe even on that same ship, perfer RCC(Royal Caribbean Cruise) line to Carnival............aaaaaawwwwww
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Sorry I clicked on wrong correction on spell check above. The word was supposed to say ""To make the prison woman feel inadequate or inferior to say the least.
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Well, how did I miss this?!! I love to cruise, LOVED and western Caribbean cruise for sure! Maybe even on that same ship, perfer RCC(Royal Caribbean Cruise) line to Carnival............aaaaaawwwwww
Maybe they could use a bridesmaid or something. Who cares what the line of of ship it is. a ship is a ship with all the same potentials. lol at least the one in Italy was crashed close to the shore! Wonder if it made a difference what line it was. They hire everybody or anybody all over the world and some don't have a country to go to and criminals. but one might sound more ritzy then the other I don't know. Are they taking the ritzy one?
Just give me a tractor, a garden, a field of corn or golden hay that is like perfume given by the Hand of God and I feel very secure. But even that is all gone for me now. Not that I still can't handle it. God had given me the best things in life and look forward to having it again someday all restored with Him.
Since no oceans in heaven --no ships either.
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Well, tinka, i happen to like cruising. I have done it several times before and i believe tha tlst ship I took was the very one used in this cruise. But I actually only kidding about going on this one. i have a great travel group, and not looking for a new one.
And the folks I know say there is ship in Heaven......The Old Ship of Zion and Jesus is the Captain!
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How successful will this cruise be?
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Who cares how successful it might be? We all know that this is another opportunity that Danny has set up so he can surround himself with people who will stroke his ego.
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Well, I gues you might be referring to how many participants. I have no idea. However, for those who do go, if the objective is to have a great time fellowshipping, they would be hard pressed in that environment to have a bad time. I mean they would really have to be trying to be miserable. You can do whatever make floats your boat. Socialize, don't socialize. Get off the ship everytime it stops and or be satisfied to look out fromt eh deck at each port. Eat in the assigned dining areas, or eat in your room. Read, sleep, party...whatever! Besides a unexpected bout of sea sickness or other illness, I can't see how anyone would have a horrible time......
How successful will this cruise be?
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2012 Cruise Itinerary
Day Date Time Subject Presenter Location
Sun 10 8:00pm Meet & Greet All will be Present Aruba Room
Mon 11 9:30-11:30am All Women Conf Shelley Quinn
"What Men Don't Tell You" Aruba Room
Mon 11 3:00-5:00pm All Men Conf JD Quinn
"Avoiding an Affair" Aruba Room
Tue 12 8:00-10:00pm Evening Meeting
Shelly Quinn
"Taming the Tongue" Aruba Room
Wed 13 8:30-10:00pm Reason to Believe in Miracles Danny Shelton Aruba Room
Thurs 14 8:00-9:30pm Evening Meeting JD Quinn/Shelly Quinn
"Abolishing Barriers to Communication" Aruba Room
Fri 15 8:00-10:00pm Sabbath Evening Worship Danny Shelton/John Lomacang Aruba Room
Sat 16 9:30am Sabbath School JD Quinn
"Family Revival" Aruba Room
Sat 16 11:00am Opening Prayer JD Quinn Aruba Room
Sat 16 Praise and Worship Danny Shelton
Sat 16 Family in Crisis Pastor John Lomacang
Sat 16 4:00-5:30pm Worship Danny Shelton Aruba Room
Sat 16 Speaker Shelley Quinn Aruba Room
Sat 16 8:00-10:00pm Concert John Lomacang Aruba Room
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See now that is what I love aobut a cruise......I would skip every bit of that and enjoy myself! But seriously, they have done a great job of scheduling. There is plenty of time left over to enjoy the rest of the cruise, ports of call, etc.
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2012 Cruise Itinerary
Day Date Time Subject Presenter Location
Sun 10 8:00pm Meet & Greet All will be Present ( for sure) Aruba Room
Mon 11 9:30-11:30am All Women Conf Shelley Quinn
"What Men Don't Tell You" (hmmmm) Aruba Room
Mon 11 3:00-5:00pm All Men Conf JD Quinn
"Avoiding an Affair" ( for the
Shelton family)???? Aruba Room
Tue 12 8:00-10:00pm Evening Meeting
Shelly Quinn
"Taming the Tongue" ( for the sympathizers ??) Aruba Room
Wed 13 8:30-10:00pm Reason to Believe in Miracles (Story hour of 3abn again??? Danny Shelton Aruba Room
Thurs 14 8:00-9:30pm Evening Meeting JD Quinn/Shelly Quinn
"Abolishing Barriers to Communication" (avoiding lies and coverups???) Aruba Room
Fri 15 8:00-10:00pm Sabbath Evening Worship Danny Shelton/John Lomacang Aruba Room
Sat 16 9:30am Sabbath School JD Quinn
"Family Revival" (Hang in there 3abn family as the rewards have been grate to even afford cruises) Aruba Room
Sat 16 11:00am Opening Prayer JD Quinn Aruba Room
Sat 16 Praise and Worship (to who?? -> Danny Shelton (will
God receive such actions without repentance???)
Sat 16 Family in Crisis (family of 3abn??) Pastor John Lomacang
Sat 16 4:00-5:30pm Worship Danny Shelton Aruba Room
Sat 16 Speaker (wait she calls it preaching) Shelley Quinn Aruba Room
Sat 16 8:00-10:00pm Concert (HO HUm) John Lomacang Aruba Room
Maybe on this cruise they will learn of repentance after loss of their cover ups and still the misuse of funds while riding the "waves".
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My guess is that there is panic right now as the cruise departure draws closer. The 3abn leadership is realizing that this cruise is not igniting the excitement that it was expected to ignite among the many SDA members hungering for a chance to see and hear John Lomacang, Shelly Quinn and of course, Danny Shelton, the miracle man himself.
Rates will be reduced, still no excitement. Tickets will then be provided to the close 3abn family in an effort to keep numbers up. A small group will finally go on this cruise. No where near the size that was anticipated. Danny Shelton and company will call the cruise a huge success on the 3abn live show and show pictures of crowded rooms and smiling faces. Most of these smiling faces will be the same group that he's been talking to for the past 20 years, trying to look excited when truthfully they have heard the same tired lie repeatedly. Danny will vow to hold another cruise. 3abn will eat the financial loss.
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a couple of days ago....another ship stranded at sea- no power and it takes about a week for rescue to get back. I noticed they said also not many on it but Who wants a ticket even for free? lol. :ROFL:
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Tickets will then be provided to the close 3abn family in an effort to keep numbers up.
Would the value of those tickets be reported on their W2's?
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Good point Bob. Maybe on Danny's W2 as a business expense. It would be interesting if a few notable people opted to go on this cruise.
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Today, another large yacht got hit by a rogue very high wave 200 miles off California, Injuries and another rescue. Pretty risky traveling, and entertainment these days. These rogue waves can cover over a whole cruise almost instantly they say. What a time to pick a cruise in the middle of bad season of storms with earthquakes happening most of the time now.
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I had a link to the information about the cruise. Now it has all disappeared. Wonder why?
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I had a link to the information about the cruise. Now it has all disappeared. Wonder why?
Here is a currently active link. http://sdavacations.com/presenters.html (http://sdavacations.com/presenters.html)
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Today, another large yacht got hit by a rogue very high wave 200 miles off California, Injuries and another rescue. Pretty risky traveling, and entertainment these days. These rogue waves can cover over a whole cruise almost instantly they say. What a time to pick a cruise in the middle of bad season of storms with earthquakes happening most of the time now.
Some people only think gloom and doom all the time they can find nothing good or safe in anything but instead are always stressing the vengeance and terribleness of God and the times we live. It is no wonder that many are driven away from Christianity and that is because of the great paradox that is evident in the supposed members of the church. They see no reason to live a life full of gloom and doom and still perish in the lake of fire. Now people would be more convinced of the virtue in joining the church if only there were more actually living healthy lives and happy God blessed lives. Alas, there is nothing left but a group of bitter old men and women waiting not only for the worlds destruction but their on demise too. Everyday they conscentrate on the bad and wish bad on the suppose sinners while all the time secretly wishing they too could take a cruise, only to be afraid the boat would capsize and they would be lost now instead of leaving bitter old men and women hopping that because they have suffered God will save them.
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Today, another large yacht got hit by a rogue very high wave 200 miles off California, Injuries and another rescue. Pretty risky traveling, and entertainment these days. These rogue waves can cover over a whole cruise almost instantly they say. What a time to pick a cruise in the middle of bad season of storms with earthquakes happening most of the time now.
Some people only think gloom and doom all the time they can find nothing good or safe in anything but instead are always stressing the vengeance and terribleness of God and the times we live. It is no wonder that many are driven away from Christianity and that is because of the great paradox that is evident in the supposed members of the church. They see no reason to live a life full of gloom and doom and still perish in the lake of fire. Now people would be more convinced of the virtue in joining the church if only there were more actually living healthy lives and happy God blessed lives. Alas, there is nothing left but a group of bitter old men and women waiting not only for the worlds destruction but their on demise too. Everyday they conscentrate on the bad and wish bad on the suppose sinners while all the time secretly wishing they too could take a cruise, only to be afraid the boat would capsize and they would be lost now instead of leaving bitter old men and women hopping that because they have suffered God will save them.
:ROFL:
I was taught by experience that life is not carefree and happy go lucky, so much that you have no concern whatsoever for anyone but yourself. I do not enter into entertainment for thrills, chills, or death defying opportunities that presume God will protect me from wasted thrilling moments. If there is just yourself to serve, and carefree lifestyle then go for it as you have much to waste.
I also took the example of Jesus presenting how he lived on this earth and how he came so humble (died with blood running out everywhere so I could live) and taught consequences with no perception of folly, presumption, selfishness, careless, very conservative with every dime of money how it is spent or wasted on self unnecessary vanity and entertainment, My care of people is probably overly and feel very guilty to be extravagant. My husband and I always shared everything with anyone that was in need that came within our reach. We have concentrated on people and how we could help best. We have paid others bills, gave cars provided places to stay and were given happiness in return, No we would not have enjoyed for a minute a cruise. We were farm and business people and not accustomed to play. Just look at the children that are displayed on TV in missionary SDA fields being skin and bones and then ask yourself how you can do it. My whole family are givers and folks before me. Just my way of life. and I definitely can detect yours. 3 abn has led in extravaganza and their perception of it is greatly lacking to where they have to find new uses for their money in entertaining there selves. They do it at great peril presuming the pew money approves of it. and of course I look at things in a great difference then you. lol. just set back and enjoy the forced "share the wealth society"........and have a very carefree life. I know where the joy is at and what causes sadness from corruption. Jesus is in constant great sorrow for the loss of every soul until that day.. and many have not a thought of it while others work. and that is the kind of husband i had. Did you ever read the life of EGW and her husband? They sacrificed much and her cruise was clearly out of extreme necessity. She loved the Lord and did all she could do. You are a great presumer of life.
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Tinka... You need to give it up. With your off-centered reasonings and your long ramblings, you are sounding like one of these Yuchee Pines or Black Hills fanatics. Your doom and gloom is not enjoyable or even amusing.
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Your right, this is no place to be to be convinced by develish justifyers or imposter personal friendly back Personal messages. Goodness, it would be a chore and distasteful for you to read the on going "messanger"s books. You might end up at Yuchee Pines or who knows what. Never realized how drastic you were. and it is so true that you don't get into debate with the opposition of devilish railings. Bet you never read the long thoughts of EGW posted I included to get what she means across for truth. I also read long postings of other posters to finally see exactly where they were coming from. and no one needs to read your opinions either. You must be exactly what you call yourself, Horsethief. Your quite two faced I wondered what you were up to and so glad I did not trust you.
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Today, another large yacht got hit by a rogue very high wave 200 miles off California, Injuries and another rescue. Pretty risky traveling, and entertainment these days. These rogue waves can cover over a whole cruise almost instantly they say. What a time to pick a cruise in the middle of bad season of storms with earthquakes happening most of the time now.
Some people only think gloom and doom all the time they can find nothing good or safe in anything but instead are always stressing the vengeance and terribleness of God and the times we live. It is no wonder that many are driven away from Christianity and that is because of the great paradox that is evident in the supposed members of the church. They see no reason to live a life full of gloom and doom and still perish in the lake of fire. Now people would be more convinced of the virtue in joining the church if only there were more actually living healthy lives and happy God blessed lives. Alas, there is nothing left but a group of bitter old men and women waiting not only for the worlds destruction but their on demise too. Everyday they conscentrate on the bad and wish bad on the suppose sinners while all the time secretly wishing they too could take a cruise, only to be afraid the boat would capsize and they would be lost now instead of leaving bitter old men and women hopping that because they have suffered God will save them.
Excellent post, christian!!
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Today, another large yacht got hit by a rogue very high wave 200 miles off California, Injuries and another rescue. Pretty risky traveling, and entertainment these days. These rogue waves can cover over a whole cruise almost instantly they say. What a time to pick a cruise in the middle of bad season of storms with earthquakes happening most of the time now.
Some people only think gloom and doom all the time they can find nothing good or safe in anything but instead are always stressing the vengeance and terribleness of God and the times we live. It is no wonder that many are driven away from Christianity and that is because of the great paradox that is evident in the supposed members of the church. They see no reason to live a life full of gloom and doom and still perish in the lake of fire. Now people would be more convinced of the virtue in joining the church if only there were more actually living healthy lives and happy God blessed lives. Alas, there is nothing left but a group of bitter old men and women waiting not only for the worlds destruction but their on demise too. Everyday they conscentrate on the bad and wish bad on the suppose sinners while all the time secretly wishing they too could take a cruise, only to be afraid the boat would capsize and they would be lost now instead of leaving bitter old men and women hopping that because they have suffered God will save them.
Excellent post, christian!!
Just wondering if presumed safety on ones desires of "thrills" with no perception of consequence , could give you a little doom and gloom? :ROFL: How can most be so blind? But as goes the majority :ROFL:
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Oh and Horsethief,
You must be pretty close to the inside of 3abn to know all and therefore someone trusts you so you can turn around blast them on here. :ROFL: :ROFL:
Now who did you say seeks the attention again?? :ROFL:
and Bob has every right to answer Alex's questions if Alex's asks him even tho I've now had thoughts also just what is happening to cause what on here? and now I know why your name, you steal horse talk info from one and pass it on to another. Wow
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Tinka... You need to give it up. With your off-centered reasonings and your long ramblings, you are sounding like one of these Yuchee Pines or Black Hills fanatics. Your doom and gloom is not enjoyable or even amusing.
If "Yuchee Pines or Black Hills fanatics" are distinguishable by "off-centered reasonings and ... long ramblings," I highly doubt that 3ABN would have spent over a million dollars suing someone who had been to one of those facilities. At the very least, 3ABN and Danny Shelton contended that the "reasonings" and "ramblings" were so coherent, many of their donors believed the allegations to be as described and stopped giving.
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Well Bob, I've been to places like those stated. I've lived among those people. I've heard them ramble about the evils of television, computers, cell phones, radios, cars, the "modern SDA church," you name it, it was evil and I shouldn't have one or get involved because there was the potential of evil in it. For a time I begin to think that way because I was so immersed in the self-supporting/independent ministry culture around me.
Took me some time and some embarrassment to get acclamated back to civility and normality. I'm glad that's all behind me now.
So when I saw the rambling on here about the dangers of cruise ships and all the potential things that are going to go wrong with that, it brought to mind those days when I was told that everything had a satanic pulse to it and that I was doomed if I looked at a beautiful woman, or heard some rock and roll on the radio.