Advent Talk
General Category => General Discussions => Topic started by: patsi on April 13, 2008, 01:45:07 PM
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I am a bit concerned. In light of the many things that take place on a "christian" forum. Today I was informed by a third party that *I* am known as someone else. It would seem that some on other forums are keeping close watch and are posing as someone else to contact Bonnie and this third party as another synonym.
With all that has gone on, members may want to exercise with whom they have any contact with no matter how innocent it may be.
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I am a bit concerned. In light of the many things that take place on a "christian" forum. Today I was informed by a third party that *I* am known as someone else. It would seem that some on other forums are keeping close watch and are posing as someone else to contact Bonnie and this third party as another synonym.
With all that has gone on, members may want to exercise with whom they have any contact with no matter how innocent it may be.
I have had no contact with anyone I do not know. Mama's advice was quite sound. Never talk to strangers without supervision. In this case written records.
I would agree that everyone needs to be careful on who they trust. Old tired game of intimidation and doubt by those that play it best.
We do know that even personal e-mails in your profile here are kept track of and duly noted when and if they are changed.
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The way she put it and I took it, be careful who you talk to that seem to be freinds as well.
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Should the newcomers be careful as well?
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Hi Lil Star, I guess there's always a chance that a member will be cooked, fried, or boiled on a forum. But I haven't seen that here. I like it here. I don't post much because I read what others write and think to myself, "Geez, when will I ever get to the point of knowing Jesus and the Bible like that??" :praying:
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I also hope you also don't see it at the Maritime forum.
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Thank you Charis for your very encouraging words as well.
Daryl, I just want to get used to this forum first. Settle in type of thing ya know? I am sure that I would feel safe there, but I want to make sure I feel safe here first. I hope you understand?
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Thank you Charis for your very encouraging words as well.
Daryl, I just want to get used to this forum first. Settle in type of thing ya know? I am sure that I would feel safe there, but I want to make sure I feel safe here first. I hope you understand?
Take your time Lil. Get to feel comfortable and safe here.
I stick to a policy of not rushing in to make 'friends' on the internet as people can operate under all types of various disguises. :caution: I guess that's what I need to do to feel 'safe'. Others might find different ways work best for them.
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Take your time Lil. Get to feel comfortable and safe here.
I stick to a policy of not rushing in to make 'friends' on the internet as people can operate under all types of various disguises. Caution I guess that's what I need to do to feel 'safe'. Others might find different ways work best for them.
That is exactly the way I am!!! I have found that people are one way when they are on the forum at first and then turn into something totally different. It is like Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde. I like knowing that people are the same all the time. I do not enjoy having the knife in my back so very much of the time. It hurts and it hurts bad.
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I also hope you also don't see it at the Maritime forum.
I like the Maritime Forum too... (http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g271/Makualla/thumbsup.gif)
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Okay! I'll go check it out! :praying: Please let it be good.... Please let it be safe....
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Okay! I'll go check it out! :praying: Please let it be good.... Please let it be safe....
I'm sure that it will be 'safe' Lil, but do things in YOUR time; not as others want. :thumbsup:
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Recently I was informed by a friend (I met this person one on one) to be very careful of a certain poster in another forum. The poster is doing and saying all the right things... :dunno:
Please be very careful. I was taken in... sigh...
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Recently I was informed by a friend (I met this person one on one) to be very careful of a certain poster in another forum. The poster is doing and saying all the right things... :dunno:
Please be very careful. I was taken in... sigh...
I agree with this advice absolutely. Don't be taken in by those you do not know. They might sound and look like they're doing all the right things, but... :caution: Be careful. Trust no one until you get to know hem personally and then... watch some more.
Yes. I do have an issue with 'TRUST' and I don't apologise for it.
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Well, I just got a notice by an Admin of another forum that I have been accused of slamming him at other forums. That is NOT true, but the accusation had to come from someone in this forum. (http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g271/Makualla/bur2.gif)
I do not take kindly to being lied about. Whoever did that, and reads this, had best be thinking long and hard about what he/she said.
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Well, I just got a notice by an Admin of another forum that I have been accused of slamming him at other forums. That is NOT true, but the accusation had to come from someone in this forum. (http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g271/Makualla/bur2.gif)
I do not take kindly to being lied about. Whoever did that, and reads this, had best be thinking long and hard about what he/she said.
Charis, you will notice that several people have given quite wise advice IMO, in suggesting that it is not wise to trust people (especially on the internet), when one doesn't even know them. I strongly suggest that people take responsibility for their own safety and don't leave themselves open to harassment in any Forum; IOW - don't open up freely with personal information.
However, I also believe that if one is going to take seriously, everything that they are told about other people from various Forums, they will forever be in a state of crisis and major stress. I have little time for talebearers, but I don't believe that Moderaters here can play 'nursemaid' to those who are offended by whatever happens on other Forums. We are busy enough caring for AT.
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Well, I just got a notice by an Admin of another forum that I have been accused of slamming him at other forums. That is NOT true, but the accusation had to come from someone in this forum. (http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g271/Makualla/bur2.gif)
I do not take kindly to being lied about. Whoever did that, and reads this, had best be thinking long and hard about what he/she said.
Charis,
Once the tone of any group,forum or in real life has been set, it is a extremely difficult task to change course and head it in the direction you would like to see it go. Some topics are difficult to manage sucessfully, but I think can be done. Free speech is so often taken to mean, I can say, do, hurt,lie, imply about whatever I choose. Some restrictions need to apply and some rules need to be enforced. The enforcement of rules does lie in the hands of the administration and will reflect his/her personal convictions as to how others should be treated, while not dictating what others hold as their opinions. I think if you continue to stay here you will find that this forum will consider you a valuable assest in achieving that goal. I have always been amazed at thoughts and questions you bring out. Never in a demeaning way, but more than a little thought provoking. What others have lost can be a gain for adventtalk.
Being sucessful, being accepted by a quality of people that reflects who you are can be the best revenge without even striving for revenge.
You have witnessed what happens every time abuse and changing that course is brought up. It also has happened with another topic here.
Some do resent the sucess by others of what they cannot or will not do. The rapid growth recently due to some very pointed direction here is encouraging. Some are of course of the "peepng tom" mindset, others just because they can't resist what they claim to abhor, but still others are just like yourself. Seeing and feeling a different tone here among the moderator's and admin that it matters little who you are, you matter as much as the next one
Advent talk was a needed alternative to what was out there. People will congregate with like minded people. Not necessarily in religious views, but in personal moral values.
I have been getting some rather strange e-mails as well. I simply file them away with the "Junk" for future use if needed.
Following you from place to place is a little like the abusive spouse that won't let the other spouse leave. he /she doesn't want them, but to lose them reflects badly on them personally
Like the abused spouse, A particular member of a group may make the group uncomfortable,but they really do not want to see them go. I do think it is seen somehow to show the lack of the group, to see those that make them feel so exposed and uncomfortable be truly accepted elsewhere. You will probably find a little arrow shot across the bow every now and then because of it. But take that as a positive. In time, those that really reflect the values important to you, will join you here or find a place where their own personal values are reflected.
Advent talk is just beginning, different in tone from what is already out there. It will take a lot to maintain the desired direction, but it can be done. Maritime has been there for several years and suits many that might not find the same level of comfort as here. ClubAdvenitst suits the needs of those that would not be comfortable here or Maritime as well.
Ignore the e-mails. If there is an objection from other sources as to what you say, then maybe they should not allow the objected statements to flourish and continue. Contributing the thoughts and opinions I have seen you express other places will add immeasureably here. It is the loss of others and I think they will realize the contributions were not a threat but an assest in time. But unfortunately, right now ,the assest requires something that cannot be easily given
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Chrissie said:
I have little time for talebearers, but I don't believe that Moderaters here can play 'nursemaid' to those who are offended by whatever happens on other Forums. We are busy enough caring for AT.
::raises eyebrows::
I never asked you to play nursemaid. I was giving an example of what had been talked about previously in this thread. I had never experienced it personally, so I was a bit shocked to have it on my plate. The part I REALLY don't like is that it had to have come from THIS forum. (http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g271/Makualla/stick.gif)
Thank you, Bonnie, for your input. I appreciate it.
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Hmmm, I think I am completely lost on this one here. :scratch: However I do love your little smilies you keep using... I like the coffee one too!
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Chrissie said: I have little time for talebearers, but I don't believe that Moderaters here can play 'nursemaid' to those who are offended by whatever happens on other Forums. We are busy enough caring for AT.
::raises eyebrows::
I never asked you to play nursemaid. I was giving an example of what had been talked about previously in this thread. I had never experienced it personally, so I was a bit shocked to have it on my plate. The part I REALLY don't like is that it had to have come from THIS forum. (http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g271/Makualla/stick.gif)
Thank you, Bonnie, for your input. I appreciate it.
Charis, I'm sorry that you have taken offence at my remarks. That was not my intent.
This is a new Forum. I'm really hoping that 'baggage' from other Forums which sounds anything but Christian at times, does not impact AT. If there is 'baggage' in any of those, I strongly suggest that it stays there, and we get on with life over here.
AT is a new beginning. Different values. Different people. The one thing I would be disappointed with is if it became a slanging match here for what occurs in other Forums. If there is anything there you don't understand, please PM me. :sabbath:
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"Recently I was informed by a friend (I met this person one on one) to be very careful of a certain poster in another forum. The poster is doing and saying all the right things... Dunno
Please be very careful. I was taken in... sigh.."
Can you please explain a little more about what you mean? How do we need to be careful?
Thanks!
daylily
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Forums can be good experience or ugly. Many depend on forum life to have a virtual life rather than a real personal life.
Online you can easily, at least for a time, present yourself as something you are not. At times members of forums can be contacted secretly by some that are not who they present themselves to be, to curry favor or make themselves look better. Usually it is "done as a favor" to warn you.
Just use precaution and observe. Be slow to share personal thoughts or knowledge to someone professing to want to be your friend. Even online, the true intentiions and who they are will show in time
Bonnie
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I do think here there will be some controls exercised over any threatening or abusive contacts thru pm's by forum members of adventtalk. It so far apears to be a pretty good group
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Bonnie, thank you for your reply. I'm beginning to understand, I think.
daylily