Thank you for this precious information...you see, there will be a round two and I appreciate you providing lists of documents we should be looking for...that is if you believe I am naive enough to believe there is an affidavitt from a "Licensed PI"...and what kind of PI left his camera home on a domestic case??? I really do need to know the name of this idiot!!! Did you guys pay for this fool of fools? Yes, that's right, that is the one you refused to provide the name and address for in the requests to produce. WHAT'S NEW??? ALL TALK...NO PRODUCTION!!!
Actually, let's start with the primary question: SAM, HAVE YOU SEEN THESE AFFIDAVITTS?
And yes, I can explain the AM visit...can you??? In fact, Arild was not coming out of "Linda's Apartment" but rather Linda's daughter's apartment...humm, does that change the story, hah??? And did your "Licensed PI" forget to tell you that Johann Thorvaldsonn was also there with them as they prepared the written response to the board of directors for the Sunday morning Board Meeting? The one that Arild, Linda and Johann were ordered not to enter the premises to attend to defend Linda against the WILD ALLEGATIONS of Danny Lee Shelton??? Did they tell you Arild had to buy a new computer, program and set it up to print because Linda's had been confiscated?
Do you really believe we don't know the real story..not the spun trash that eminates from Danny Lee Shelton?
Rest assured, SAM, in time we will get all those records and so better stop the contributions now!!! We have had enough to know that Danny Lee Shelton had his filthy hands in the offering plate, whether you like the reality or not!!!
We also know that Brenda is so factually challenged that nothing she says can be relied upon as factual!!!
And, we also know that NOT A DOT OR TITLE OF WHAT YOU WRITE is reliable or factual and is definitely uncorroborated by the evidence.
So, SAM, your time will come and we will be happy to identify the two idiot PI's that would write affidavitt's and forget the cameras. But, then, look how easy you are to dupe???
Just remember, SAM, we were not the people that ran from the fight at a critical point in the discovery, DANNY LEE SHELTON RAN!!! But, he did not get away.
Gailon Arthur Jopy
AUReporter
In answer to Bob's allegations:
Danny told you all along that this case was not about exposing Linda. What would a copy of a sworn affidavit by an Illinois licensed PI be worth to you Bob?
Would you believe it if the signed affidavit said that Linda and the Dr. were holding hands while walking down the street while still married to Danny (by themselves without Johann..they apparently had tucked him in bed in his own room..) then after 10 PM went for a walk together and held hands for a bit?
Would you believe it if the sworn affidavit by the PI said that they were together in an apartment together after midnight. (Actually it was til 3:00 am).
Bob, maybe you should check Illinois law. I was told by a professional that if a married woman is in an apartment/hotel etc. together after midnight that now the burden of proof goes to the woman to prove she did not commit adultery.
Bob, the reason you are in the mess you are in is because rumor mongers like yourself and Gailon jump on every bit of hearsay gossip that 's out there as though it's truth. Normal reasoning goes out the window.
You make the statement that if Danny didn't show any info about Linda in court then he must not have any. You base that info on the fact that he didn't produce the requested info so therefore you make the dumb assumption that Linda is innocent. Bob this is the reasoning of a small child. That's why you and Gailon should not try to defend yourself. Real attorneys would not put all their marbles in the same basket and continually be wrong like you two are. The "court" did not ask DS to produce any evidence against Linda. You did. Big difference.
Do you really think DS gained the support of Board members and church leaders without giving & showing support for why he was divorced. He has not had a problem all along giving necessary info to those that need to know. But you guys are not the kind of people that any thinking person would give any such info to. He told you that all along didn't he?
The reason for the lawsuit as I understand it was simple. DS knew he had the rightful support of his board and leaders in the church when it came to the divorce. But when you all started accusing DS and 3ABN of stealing and wrong financial doings, 3ABN felt that you should have to prove it in court. They knew all along that you couldn't prove any of your accusations of financial wrong doings. DS and the board has always had outside auditors and have also had attorneys to look over any and all financial dealings as they wanted to maintain their well earned credibility when it comes to taking donors money and investing it in the spreading of the gospel.
No matter how hard headed, prideful and arrogant you are, you were wrong to accuse DS and 3ABN of financial wrong doing. All things work together for good according to the bible and that is what happened in my opinion when you all got the IRS involved. Why? Because only the IRS could clear 3ABN of all your charges of wrong doing...AND THAT THEY DID! The year long investigation was dropped without DS or 3ABN paying one penny to the IRS!
Bob, there's no longer a reason to keep going to court over all the other ridicules things you come up with because you appear ate up with the gossip bug. The donors have heard the truth and have spoken. They see the fruits of 3ABN and they see your fruits of judging and being an accuser of the brethren.
A spiritual person can discern that you have become an agent of the devil by accusing the brethren. Every one makes mistakes including DS but you still, according to the bible, are not the judge, God is. He is the only one that has a right to make everyone's sins public. Sinful people including you and Gailon have no mandate to do such a thing. That's why you have no support from real Christians. Take a look at your followers. Most have records similar to you and Gailon. From convicted embezzlers, self admitted child porn addict, alleged stalker, Crooked Dr. etc,. The bible says judge not that you be not judged. Bob, you and Gailon judged and now the judgement has fallen back on you just as the bible says. We can see all the sins of Gailon Joy and the rest of you but at some point we have to leave you in the hands of God! You are guilty of what you accuse others of.
Example. You are so quick to call people liars and say that they need to repent and apologize publically... Danny said this or Brenda said that and Walt said this and Pastor John said this so they should admit they lied and move on. Yet by your own rules of judgment you lie yet have never apologized for it.
You lied to Wickepedia right? You claimed you were a Dr. because you thought it would give you more credibility about info you were giving to them. Bob a lie is a lie is a lie.
Could we please hear you (going by your own rules) confess that you lied to Wickapedia and to the rest of us. You see what I mean Bob? Now should I make an all out war on you because you lied and won't admit it or do I leave your life in God's hands and let you and he work it out even though I'm still convinced that you lied. There are churches that would drop an SDA's membership over lying to an organization like Wickepedia claiming to be a Dr. when you are far from a Dr. And Bob, didn't you tell the court you are a Pastor? If so, isn't that a lie? We know you are not a licensed SDA Pastor so what is the name of the church you are pastoring? Isn't that misleading...again? Would that also be considered a lie?
Well, what do you think? What can you say? You accuse 3ABN of things that you yourself have done. Your spreading of lies on the net is certainly not a secret sin. These are lies that remove any credibility you may have had. Do I now gather support to send copies of your lie to Wickepedia to every church leader and call for your disfellowship, do I call the secular media and try to expose you? The old saying that the pot calling the kettle black certaninly seems to apply to you. Bob, you have lied over and over, what should we do? You cannot back up the lies about 3abn with proof. Your Wickapedia lie is on there for all the world to see. Didn't Gailon lie to the bankruptcy court? Again, that is in the pacer documents.
Let me throw something out to you and see if you can follow me. What if Danny never owned any proof that Linda and the Dr. were holding hands walking down the street together? Does that mean that whomever paid for the PI report didn't have the proof? Absolutely not! There as been strong hints all along that Danny never paid for a PI but that someone else did. Do you think that Danny has seen the proof including some video of the two together without Johann present?
I would say that there is more than a good chance that he has..wouldn't you! Don't you realize just because you didn't see something in court that it doesn't mean that it doesn't exist. The owner of the info was never told by the court to show it! You really shouldn't try to be lawyers. You should try to do as the bible says though and be bread winners for your families. I know of no one who has a high opinion of Gailon because not only is he a convicted felon but still denies that he did anything wrong. OOPS! By the way shouldn't he be apologizing to the public for what he did and stop lying about it?
Neither of you are bread winners for your families. Honestly how sad that you have put on the robe of judge rather than put on the mantle of head of the house and bread winner as God ordained. Why not let God be the judge and you guys support your families?
From what I am privy to it seems that DS has told you all along the he will not give into the demands of arrogant self proclaimed judges, with evil intent. No way in the world would any President of any company allow a Gailon Joy for instance to come and do a financial investigation by an unqualified convicted felon (embezzler) just because the convicted felon is demanding that he be allowed access to 3ABN's finances.
Had DS let evil people like Gailon and Bob come to 3ABN and turn over their finances to them ,I for one, would never give another dime to 3ABN. That would be very stupid, foolish and naive of DS and 3ABN. Thank the Lord they stuck to their guns and didn't let you guys try to take over! Lord knows you two have enough of your own problems...trying dealing with them before trying to invent a beam in someone else's eye.