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Re: Excerpts from an unpublished manuscript
« Reply #60 on: June 30, 2010, 07:19:40 PM »

Samuel,
We must think a lot alike, I was going to put at the end but decided I said enough but my words were going to be instead of the "Shelton Regime " The Shelton animal Barn". I thought of that becasue when you got such diverse sexual complications in a whole family what ever is there but animal instincts left. That is why I thought of it and you came up with same thoughts. "Livestock" .
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« Reply #61 on: June 30, 2010, 07:42:42 PM »

Samuel,
We must think a lot alike, I was going to put at the end but decided I said enough but my words were going to be instead of the "Shelton Regime " The Shelton animal Barn". I thought of that becasue when you got such diverse sexual complications in a whole family what ever is there but animal instincts left. That is why I thought of it and you came up with same thoughts. "Livestock" .

Again, you hit the nail right on the head. "Animal instincts" that is solely what one is left to believe in matters such as this. It is far from Human. Especially when they claim to do the work of God, but in the dark they persue devilish acts.




"He reveals the deep things of darkness,and brings deep shadows into the light." Job 12:22

"Woe to those who go to great depths to hide their plans from the LORD,who do their work in darkness and think, "Who sees us? Who will know?" Isaiah 29:15
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« Reply #62 on: June 30, 2010, 11:21:43 PM »

Chapter 2
An Inconvenient Truth
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In his continued attempts to discredit Linda and prove an inappropriate relationship between her and the doctor, Danny contacts the Doctor’s pastor in Norway, the same one who served as Linda’s translator at the evangelistic meeting where she sang with Brenda Walsh in February: “During the spring of 2004 Danny called my pastor in Norway. Danny tried to get me kicked out as an elder and as a member of the church. My pastor told me about the conversation and he said, ‘He is mentally sick, he needs professional help.’” Obviously Danny’s intent and the Pastor’s opinion of Arild Abrahamsen’s integrity were diametrically opposed. Not only did he see through Danny’s false representation of the situation, but the way that he expressed himself made it clear to the Pastor that he was conversing with a man whose perception of reality was not only greatly in question, but the product of an unbalanced mind.


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Re: Excerpts from an unpublished manuscript
« Reply #63 on: July 01, 2010, 05:48:46 AM »

How could anyone in SDA not realize the mental condition of DS with the shock of "instant marriage" with Brandy's back ground of porno, dancing etc and quick baptism. That alone should discern something strange except for the "followers" lack of discerment. Of course they each had their agenda too. One was a match for the other but both did not get what they were seeking however they pre planned their individual motives. "Lust V. Money" or is it "Money V. Lust"??

Then the next step..saga of DNA and the  :beagle: are now on the  :rabbit: trails of discourse which are eating up all the  :horse: feed. Once all was in view what else but the "honest standups" to try to stop "misuse" and embarrassment to the honest SDA gift givers.
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Re: Excerpts from an unpublished manuscript
« Reply #64 on: July 01, 2010, 06:24:14 AM »

Posted on the other forum

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Thread Title: The spirit of Sister's stories is... obvious
Postby Cynthia » Thu Jul 01, 2010 9:08 am UTC

Over on adventtalk Sister has taken up writing her sleazy works of fiction again, and as usual alleged Adventists and Christians are salivating over them, and hanging out waiting on the next exciting chapter of "As the stomache turns"

It appears to be the same type of tabloid garbage she published on Blacksda in "the Televangelist" and in her "unauthorized biography of 3abn" ,only she has taken the gloves off and is giving names now..


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Lev 19:16
Thou shalt not go up and down as a talebearer among thy people: neither shalt thou stand against the blood of thy neighbour: I am the LORD.
Lev 19:17
Thou shalt not hate thy brother in thine heart: thou shalt in any wise rebuke thy neighbour, and not suffer sin upon him.
Lev 19:18
Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I am the LORD.



Tinka to Sister on adventtalk:

 
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  Don't want to interrupt your chapters but is Brenda still married?




Tinka to 3abn_defender on adventtalk:


 
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  I knew it was a matter of quick time here till this drew some of the "clan" out. I intend to read these documents and they very well fit in to the documents between.
    first of all I was waiting to see who it would draw out first. Now if you have a documentary that you would like to set in here I suppose you can but you see truth has it's sequence and details that just aren't pulled out of the blue.

    ..
    People in their right mind do not make up stories that the ones involved can come back and say hey, that never happened. So you see Sister is not that stupid to say someone saw DS at Brenda's without knowing who saw it in case it came to a court of law....
    Right now you are playing the devils folly unless you can better tell the story incident by incident without the heresay from DS.... Nobody would get on here and say that Brenda did a b job either if she didn't. Goodness knows why she would do a thing like that before she took care of her mouth first... Sister has every right to give what she knows even if she is getting info from LS...


That is pure trash, and lies, and there is no excuse or legit reason to even believe it, but for some sick reason Tinka always believes any garbage or evil she hears about 3ABN and never asks for or needs any evidence except for an evil report or a gossiping slanderous talebearer to speak before doing so. It's disgusting.

Anyway, This has all been addressed years ago and denied, and not one person involved in the lies and slander has presented evidence one to support anything they have claimed about Danny and Brenda, or anything else here....


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[Original Message]
From: Brenda Walsh <brendawalsh@*****>
Cc: Nick Miller <nmiller@******>; Walt Thompson
<walttmd@*****>; Danny Shelton <danshelton@******>
To: Linda Shelton <******>

Date: 2/9/2005 11:57:28 AM
Subject: Letter from BRENDA WALSH

February 9, 2005



Dear Linda,

I am writing to you because I would like you to hear the truth about some misconceptions you may have regarding my marriage to Tim. I received a call from someone who spoke with you personally, and they said that you specifically told them that Tim and I are divorced and that Danny and I were having an affair.

Here is the truth:

1. Tim and I are happily married and we are definitely NOT divorced nor are we planning a divorce. We have a loving Christ centered home and we love each other very much. We believe that God brought us together and we plan to be together till death do us part or until Jesus comes….whichever come first.

2. Your ex-husband, Danny Shelton and I have never had an affair nor are we thinking about having an affair, not in the past, present or future! I would be willing to swear in a court of law, that I have NOT had an affair with Danny or anyone else. The only person Danny has ever talked about loving was you, and I don’t believe that he has had an affair with anyone! I believe he was faithful to you the entire time you were married, both in a physical and spiritual sense.

3. As you know, Danny and I have known each other all our lives and he is like a brother to me. My mom and dad think of him as one of their sons. The ONLY man that I have romantic feelings for is my husband Tim.


I hope this sets the record straight. Now that you know the truth, I would appreciate it if you would refrain from spreading lies and rumors. Linda I love you very much and I cherish many warm and happy memories of our times spent together. We once shared a special friendship and it hurts me to think that you could even possibly think that I would be involved with your husband! Nothing could be farther from the truth! Someday I hope you will realize that I am not your enemy. I wish you only the best and I pray that someday soon when Jesus comes in the clouds of glory, that we will be neighbors together in heaven.

May God bless you,

Your sister in Christ,

Brenda


From the lawsuit filed against Bob Pickle and Gailon Joy:

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Defendants' Conspiratorial Conduct

38.
Upon information and belief, Gailon Joy and Robert Pickle are members of the Seventh Day Adventist Church and met former 3ABN director and employee Linda Shelton through their common religious affiliation.

39.
Upon information and belief, Linda Shelton has communicated to Gailon Joy and Robert Pickle statements critical of 3ABN, its board of directors, its officers and/or its employees for them to publish as her agents.
     
40.
Upon information and belief, Gailon Joy and Robert Pickle desire to see Linda Shelton reinstated as an employee and director at 3ABN and intend to discredit and damage the ministry as a means of facilitating Linda Shelton's reinstatement.
     
41.
Gailon Joy and Robert Pickle are visitors and frequent participants in various websites and chat rooms that are frequented by members of the Seventh-Day Adventist Church, where Defendants have, by electronic posting, published numerous statements related to 3ABN

[page 11]

and Danny Shelton. Joy also operates a website at "www.save3ABN.com" where he has also published numerous statements related to 3ABN and Danny Shelton. Joy also operates a website at "www.save3ABN.org" where he directs visitors to the "www.save3ABN.com" website.
     
42.
Gailon Joy and Robert Pickle have, upon information and belief, conspired, and colluded to enable, facilitate, encourage, and promote the publication and dissemination of defamatory, disparaging, and slanderous statements regarding 3ABN and its President Danny Shelton at the internet website "www.save3ABN.com," and other internet websites, wherein numerous false statements regarding 3ABN and its President Danny Shelton have been published by Defendants.
     
43.
Defendants have participated in this conspiracy by jointly authoring many or all of the published statements on "www.save3ABN.com" and by jointly authoring statements published by one or both of them on websites frequented by members of the Seventh-Day Adventist Church, such as "www.blacksda.com," "www.maritime-sda-online.org," "www.christianforum.com," and the Yahoo Prophecy Board forum.

44.
Deffendants have also participated in this conspiracy by jointly marketing, advertising, and promoting the "www.save3ABN.com" website, which they have done by posting electronic links to the website on numerous bulletin boards and websites frequented by members of the Seventh-Day Adventist Church, by mailing advertising postcards to Seventh-Day Adventist Churches across the United States directing Church Members to the "www.save3ABN.com" website, and by encouraging Internet users to visit the "www.save3ABN.com" website to "learn the truth" about 3ABN and its President Danny Shelton.

[page 12]
45.

Defendants have also participated in this conspiracy by each disseminating, distributing, and reprinting the other's published statements.

Defendants' Untrue Statements
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50.

Gailon Joy and Robert Pickle have made numerous published untrue statements that 3ABN and its President Danny Shelton acted without grounds in removing Linda Shelton from the 3ABN Board of Directors, that Danny Shelton had no grounds for divorcing Linda Shelton, that 3ABN and Danny Shelton conspired to hide evidence and information concerning the removal and divorce, and that 3ABN and Danny Shelton have lied and made otherwise purposeful misstatements concerning the Shelton's' divorce and Danny Shelton's remarriage. Among those untrue statements made by Defendants are, inter alia, that:

[page 15]
     a.

Danny Shelton and ASI conspired to exclude Gailon Joy from participating in a fact-finding tribunal regarding Linda Shelton's divorce and removal from 3ABN.
  
    b.

Danny Shelton and ASI conspired to prevent various allegations and issues from being included in the fact-finding tribunal.   

     c.

It was Danny Shelton that participated in an extra-marital affair by becoming "involved" in "after hours activities" with 3ABN employee Brenda Walsh.
     
        d.
During his marriage to Linda Shelton, Danny Shelton had several inappropriate extra-marital relationships, of which 3ABN staff and board members were aware.

     e.
Danny Shelton was preparing to divorce Linda Shelton beginning in 2003.
     
       f.
Danny Shelton conducted an inappropriate relationship with from August 2004 until they were married in 2006, and 3ABN's officers and directors were aware of the relationship.


Pickle and Joy's response to every single specific complaint filed against them, including the above, included an acknowledgment that their were repeating here say [ gossip and defamation] and couldn't prove anything they had published was true as they did not have sufficient evidence to do so.

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"Defendants are publishing an allegation that is a restatement of a protected source or sources. Plaintiffs have been unresponsive to the allegations or have been factually challenged. Therefore, defendants are without sufficient evidence upon which to state a fact based response and request the right to supplement their response upon completion of discovery. Therefore denied."



**Pickle and Joy later stopped protecting their sources, as they indicated that they wanted to add Linda Shelton and Darrell Mundall to the case as co litigants to be sued along with them as they stated they were their main sources of information in their court filing. One can only presume Linda and Darrell did not want to step forward and defend the libel and character defamation they had caused because they couldn't. Much easier to whisper in peoples ears and let them do the dirty work and take the blame.

**Pickle also filed a document throwing sister here under the bus for her previous stories and claiming it was she who was guilty of what they were being sued for as she did it first by publishing it all on blacksda before he came on the scene.

But her stories too are based on Linda's tales.

What a mess Linda has wrought.

**I will look for the two documents I referred to above, and add them here later..

~ Cindy



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Re: Excerpts from an unpublished manuscript
« Reply #65 on: July 01, 2010, 06:38:12 AM »

Yes, the forum that is known for it's pornography, some say.
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Thread Title: The spirit of Sister's stories is... obvious
Postby Cynthia » Thu Jul 01, 2010 9:08 am UTC

Over on adventtalk Sister has taken up writing her sleazy works of fiction again, and as usual alleged Adventists and Christians are salivating over them, and hanging out waiting on the next exciting chapter of "As the stomache turns"

It appears to be the same type of tabloid garbage she published on Blacksda in "the Televangelist" and in her "unauthorized biography of 3abn" ,only she has taken the gloves off and is giving names now..

*********************************************

Lev 19:16
Thou shalt not go up and down as a talebearer among thy people: neither shalt thou stand against the blood of thy neighbour: I am the LORD.
Lev 19:17
Thou shalt not hate thy brother in thine heart: thou shalt in any wise rebuke thy neighbour, and not suffer sin upon him.
Lev 19:18
Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I am the LORD.



Tinka to Sister on adventtalk:

 
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  Don't want to interrupt your chapters but is Brenda still married?




Tinka to 3abn_defender on adventtalk:


 
Quote
  I knew it was a matter of quick time here till this drew some of the "clan" out. I intend to read these documents and they very well fit in to the documents between.
    first of all I was waiting to see who it would draw out first. Now if you have a documentary that you would like to set in here I suppose you can but you see truth has it's sequence and details that just aren't pulled out of the blue.

    ..
    People in their right mind do not make up stories that the ones involved can come back and say hey, that never happened. So you see Sister is not that stupid to say someone saw DS at Brenda's without knowing who saw it in case it came to a court of law....
    Right now you are playing the devils folly unless you can better tell the story incident by incident without the heresay from DS.... Nobody would get on here and say that Brenda did a b job either if she didn't. Goodness knows why she would do a thing like that before she took care of her mouth first... Sister has every right to give what she knows even if she is getting info from LS...


That is pure trash, and lies, and there is no excuse or legit reason to even believe it, but for some sick reason Tinka always believes any garbage or evil she hears about 3ABN and never asks for or needs any evidence except for an evil report or a gossiping slanderous talebearer to speak before doing so. It's disgusting.

Anyway, This has all been addressed years ago and denied, and not one person involved in the lies and slander has presented evidence one to support anything they have claimed about Danny and Brenda, or anything else here....


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[Original Message]
From: Brenda Walsh <brendawalsh@*****>
Cc: Nick Miller <nmiller@******>; Walt Thompson
<walttmd@*****>; Danny Shelton <danshelton@******>
To: Linda Shelton <******>

Date: 2/9/2005 11:57:28 AM
Subject: Letter from BRENDA WALSH

February 9, 2005



Dear Linda,

I am writing to you because I would like you to hear the truth about some misconceptions you may have regarding my marriage to Tim. I received a call from someone who spoke with you personally, and they said that you specifically told them that Tim and I are divorced and that Danny and I were having an affair.

Here is the truth:

1. Tim and I are happily married and we are definitely NOT divorced nor are we planning a divorce. We have a loving Christ centered home and we love each other very much. We believe that God brought us together and we plan to be together till death do us part or until Jesus comes….whichever come first.

2. Your ex-husband, Danny Shelton and I have never had an affair nor are we thinking about having an affair, not in the past, present or future! I would be willing to swear in a court of law, that I have NOT had an affair with Danny or anyone else. The only person Danny has ever talked about loving was you, and I don’t believe that he has had an affair with anyone! I believe he was faithful to you the entire time you were married, both in a physical and spiritual sense.

3. As you know, Danny and I have known each other all our lives and he is like a brother to me. My mom and dad think of him as one of their sons. The ONLY man that I have romantic feelings for is my husband Tim.


I hope this sets the record straight. Now that you know the truth, I would appreciate it if you would refrain from spreading lies and rumors. Linda I love you very much and I cherish many warm and happy memories of our times spent together. We once shared a special friendship and it hurts me to think that you could even possibly think that I would be involved with your husband! Nothing could be farther from the truth! Someday I hope you will realize that I am not your enemy. I wish you only the best and I pray that someday soon when Jesus comes in the clouds of glory, that we will be neighbors together in heaven.

May God bless you,

Your sister in Christ,

Brenda


From the lawsuit filed against Bob Pickle and Gailon Joy:

Quote
Defendants' Conspiratorial Conduct

38.
Upon information and belief, Gailon Joy and Robert Pickle are members of the Seventh Day Adventist Church and met former 3ABN director and employee Linda Shelton through their common religious affiliation.

39.
Upon information and belief, Linda Shelton has communicated to Gailon Joy and Robert Pickle statements critical of 3ABN, its board of directors, its officers and/or its employees for them to publish as her agents.
     
40.
Upon information and belief, Gailon Joy and Robert Pickle desire to see Linda Shelton reinstated as an employee and director at 3ABN and intend to discredit and damage the ministry as a means of facilitating Linda Shelton's reinstatement.
     
41.
Gailon Joy and Robert Pickle are visitors and frequent participants in various websites and chat rooms that are frequented by members of the Seventh-Day Adventist Church, where Defendants have, by electronic posting, published numerous statements related to 3ABN

[page 11]

and Danny Shelton. Joy also operates a website at "www.save3ABN.com" where he has also published numerous statements related to 3ABN and Danny Shelton. Joy also operates a website at "www.save3ABN.org" where he directs visitors to the "www.save3ABN.com" website.
     
42.
Gailon Joy and Robert Pickle have, upon information and belief, conspired, and colluded to enable, facilitate, encourage, and promote the publication and dissemination of defamatory, disparaging, and slanderous statements regarding 3ABN and its President Danny Shelton at the internet website "www.save3ABN.com," and other internet websites, wherein numerous false statements regarding 3ABN and its President Danny Shelton have been published by Defendants.
     
43.
Defendants have participated in this conspiracy by jointly authoring many or all of the published statements on "www.save3ABN.com" and by jointly authoring statements published by one or both of them on websites frequented by members of the Seventh-Day Adventist Church, such as "www.blacksda.com," "www.maritime-sda-online.org," "www.christianforum.com," and the Yahoo Prophecy Board forum.

44.
Deffendants have also participated in this conspiracy by jointly marketing, advertising, and promoting the "www.save3ABN.com" website, which they have done by posting electronic links to the website on numerous bulletin boards and websites frequented by members of the Seventh-Day Adventist Church, by mailing advertising postcards to Seventh-Day Adventist Churches across the United States directing Church Members to the "www.save3ABN.com" website, and by encouraging Internet users to visit the "www.save3ABN.com" website to "learn the truth" about 3ABN and its President Danny Shelton.

[page 12]
45.

Defendants have also participated in this conspiracy by each disseminating, distributing, and reprinting the other's published statements.

Defendants' Untrue Statements
..
50.

Gailon Joy and Robert Pickle have made numerous published untrue statements that 3ABN and its President Danny Shelton acted without grounds in removing Linda Shelton from the 3ABN Board of Directors, that Danny Shelton had no grounds for divorcing Linda Shelton, that 3ABN and Danny Shelton conspired to hide evidence and information concerning the removal and divorce, and that 3ABN and Danny Shelton have lied and made otherwise purposeful misstatements concerning the Shelton's' divorce and Danny Shelton's remarriage. Among those untrue statements made by Defendants are, inter alia, that:

[page 15]
     a.

Danny Shelton and ASI conspired to exclude Gailon Joy from participating in a fact-finding tribunal regarding Linda Shelton's divorce and removal from 3ABN.
  
    b.

Danny Shelton and ASI conspired to prevent various allegations and issues from being included in the fact-finding tribunal.   

     c.

It was Danny Shelton that participated in an extra-marital affair by becoming "involved" in "after hours activities" with 3ABN employee Brenda Walsh.
     
        d.
During his marriage to Linda Shelton, Danny Shelton had several inappropriate extra-marital relationships, of which 3ABN staff and board members were aware.

     e.
Danny Shelton was preparing to divorce Linda Shelton beginning in 2003.
     
       f.
Danny Shelton conducted an inappropriate relationship with from August 2004 until they were married in 2006, and 3ABN's officers and directors were aware of the relationship.


Pickle and Joy's response to every single specific complaint filed against them, including the above, included an acknowledgment that their were repeating here say [ gossip and defamation] and couldn't prove anything they had published was true as they did not have sufficient evidence to do so.

Quote
"Defendants are publishing an allegation that is a restatement of a protected source or sources. Plaintiffs have been unresponsive to the allegations or have been factually challenged. Therefore, defendants are without sufficient evidence upon which to state a fact based response and request the right to supplement their response upon completion of discovery. Therefore denied."



**Pickle and Joy later stopped protecting their sources, as they indicated that they wanted to add Linda Shelton and Darrell Mundall to the case as co litigants to be sued along with them as they stated they were their main sources of information in their court filing. One can only presume Linda and Darrell did not want to step forward and defend the libel and character defamation they had caused because they couldn't. Much easier to whisper in peoples ears and let them do the dirty work and take the blame.

**Pickle also filed a document throwing sister here under the bus for her previous stories and claiming it was she who was guilty of what they were being sued for as she did it first by publishing it all on blacksda before he came on the scene.

But her stories too are based on Linda's tales.

What a mess Linda has wrought.

**I will look for the two documents I referred to above, and add them here later..

~ Cindy




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« Reply #66 on: July 01, 2010, 07:12:41 AM »


When I wrote "An Unauthorized History of 3ABN" I had no contact with Linda Shelton.  Part of my information did come from a Shelton, not one by marriage, but one from birth. Before you start surmising further, I am not referring to Steve Shelton, but another Shelton. Once more than one person has information it is no longer a secret.

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Does anyone remember President Bill Clinton on nationwide television, looking directly into the camera and swearing, "I did not have sex with that woman!"

 :oops:

So much for credibility when sex with someone other than their spouse is involved.



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« Reply #67 on: July 01, 2010, 07:14:14 AM »

How can one belive this letter of Brenda when she lied about the tickets to Florida?
Are the witnesses that saw DS truck at Brenda's in the night liars too?
Is Dr. Day a liar too?
Do you understand that lawyers for the plaintiff can fabricate and spin lies that see no end in their claims? and money sets it.
I did not see Brenda confirming the supposidly lie about the b job. OF course you might think no ones business but public affairs are!
How about Brandy and Brandi background denied. The web site was there buts mass pictures empty. Who wanted to see them anyway, the web site was there.
I don't think Joy and Pickle would state what they cannot prove. Too much at stake.
Prove this different.
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« Reply #68 on: July 01, 2010, 07:21:27 AM »

Sister: I have had the opportunity to read these excerpts carefully, today. Below I have bolded one line that I find most troubling.


What Linda did not realize is that behind her back a “special relationship” had developed between her husband and this same “best friend”. Later Danny would admit to Linda that he had a special emotional bond with Brenda

First, I would like to ask, did Danny Shelton have an affair with Brenda Walsh? or what was the extent of their relationship?

If the answer is not completely known in that sense, theoretically, Danny is the adulterous person. Is it possible that these events was planned by Danny and maybe even Brenda to do away with Linda, so he could marry Brandy?

Just a few thoughts I had...

Well that wouldn't support the theory which has been proposed by those who claim Linda was set up. They claim Linda did not have any kind of improper relationship with the Doctor, but Danny claimed that so he would be free to marry Brandy.

Fact: Seventh-day Adventists believe adultery by one party frees the other to remarry. The adulterous one on the other hand is not free to remarry...

So Danny would not commit adultery or pretend to commit adultery to get rid of Linda, as that would have left him unable to remarry in the eyes of the Adventist church and the 3ABN board.


But the main point is Danny and Brenda both deny it, and no one can prove they did or has any evidence. Even the stories about his truck being at the quest apartment at 3ABN are only a partially based on truth. Brenda Walsh stays their only when taping shows etc. Sister says Brenda was without her husband in the guest housing, implying she was alone, she leaves out that Brenda when taping is there with her two sisters and is not alone, as they are all involved in taping the same shows. As was posted in the letter from her, they have been friends with Danny since before he even met Linda. There is nothing improper in having friends. Linda would be the first to say that.  Linda always knew during her entire marriage that Danny and Brenda were friends and had a special relationship (not sexual). She never had a problem with it nor brought it up as a problem at any time, until after she and Danny got divorced. In fact she and Brenda were also best friends, clear up until Brenda thought her relationship with the Doctor was improper and said so. and disagreed with what Linda was doing.







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Re: Excerpts from an unpublished manuscript
« Reply #69 on: July 01, 2010, 07:22:57 AM »

How can one belive this letter of Brenda when she lied about the tickets to Florida?

Brenda didn't lie about the tickets. Tinka is repeating a lie about Brenda.
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« Reply #70 on: July 01, 2010, 07:53:37 AM »


When I wrote "An Unauthorized History of 3ABN" I had no contact with Linda Shelton.  Part of my information did come from a Shelton, not one by marriage, but one from birth. Before you start surmising further, I am not referring to Steve Shelton, but another Shelton. Once more than one person has information it is no longer a secret.

* * *

Does anyone remember President Bill Clinton on nationwide television, looking directly into the camera and swearing, "I did not have sex with that woman!"

 :oops:

So much for credibility when sex with someone other than their spouse is involved.

Sister, you long ago lost all credibility. Remember when you claimed you came and went observing all at Shelton family gatherings and reporting it? a lie. You witnessed none of this and are the equivalent of  gossip rag writer, not a researcher.. Now you claim you had no contact with Linda and imply no information from her, but if that is true than you had to have just flat out made up so many things, [which we know you did] as you included so many details about her, and about Danny when both were allegedly alone (and not being witnessed by this Shelton you say is your source.) Just as you are doing in this latest edition... Here's one tiny example,  from blacksda, "the Unauthorized History of 3ABN" Chapter 11:


Quote from: Bystander Posted 28 January 2007 - 04:33 PM
Quote from: Sister  Posted 16 September 2006 - 08:50 AM
“Naive”, Part 1

Linda sits quietly in a chair, gazing out the living room window. Danny has just left the room. Her shoulders begins to shake as a single tear slowly makes its way down her cheek, as her lips begin to tremble she hears the roar of Danny's truck as he drives away... Soon the single tear is joined by many others, etching her delicate features like stained glass. Clasping her hands together she falls to her knees and begins to pray... At the same time Linda is praying, Danny is seated in his office viewing a website for private jets.

* * * * *

 :ROFL: :ROFL: :ROFL:   :D :D :D :D




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« Reply #71 on: July 01, 2010, 08:33:52 AM »

Sister: I have had the opportunity to read these excerpts carefully, today. Below I have bolded one line that I find most troubling.


What Linda did not realize is that behind her back a “special relationship” had developed between her husband and this same “best friend”. Later Danny would admit to Linda that he had a special emotional bond with Brenda

First, I would like to ask, did Danny Shelton have an affair with Brenda Walsh? or what was the extent of their relationship?

If the answer is not completely known in that sense, theoretically, Danny is the adulterous person. Is it possible that these events was planned by Danny and maybe even Brenda to do away with Linda, so he could marry Brandy?

Just a few thoughts I had...

Well that wouldn't support the theory which has been proposed by those who claim Linda was set up. They claim Linda did not have any kind of improper relationship with the Doctor, but Danny claimed that so he would be free to marry Brandy.

Fact: Seventh-day Adventists believe adultery by one party frees the other to remarry. The adulterous one on the other hand is not free to remarry...

So Danny would not commit adultery or pretend to commit adultery to get rid of Linda, as that would have left him unable to remarry in the eyes of the Adventist church and the 3ABN board.


But the main point is Danny and Brenda both deny it, and no one can prove they did or has any evidence. Even the stories about his truck being at the quest apartment at 3ABN are only a partially based on truth. Brenda Walsh stays their only when taping shows etc. Sister says Brenda was without her husband in the guest housing, implying she was alone, she leaves out that Brenda when taping is there with her two sisters and is not alone, as they are all involved in taping the same shows. As was posted in the letter from her, they have been friends with Danny since before he even met Linda. There is nothing improper in having friends. Linda would be the first to say that.  Linda always knew during her entire marriage that Danny and Brenda were friends and had a special relationship (not sexual). She never had a problem with it nor brought it up as a problem at any time, until after she and Danny got divorced. In fact she and Brenda were also best friends, clear up until Brenda thought her relationship with the Doctor was improper and said so. and disagreed with what Linda was doing.








True Danny didn't pretend. He did commit adultery. Just as I said yesterday those two were definitely doing something in each others company  :oand you will not convince me otherwise.
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« Reply #72 on: July 01, 2010, 08:40:20 AM »

Posted on the other forum

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Thread Title: The spirit of Sister's stories is... obvious
Postby Cynthia » Thu Jul 01, 2010 9:08 am UTC

Over on adventtalk Sister has taken up writing her sleazy works of fiction again, and as usual alleged Adventists and Christians are salivating over them, and hanging out waiting on the next exciting chapter of "As the stomache turns"

It appears to be the same type of tabloid garbage she published on Blacksda in "the Televangelist" and in her "unauthorized biography of 3abn" ,only she has taken the gloves off and is giving names now..

***************************************

Lev 19:16
Thou shalt not go up and down as a talebearer among thy people: neither shalt thou stand against the blood of thy neighbour: I am the LORD.
Lev 19:17
Thou shalt not hate thy brother in thine heart: thou shalt in any wise rebuke thy neighbour, and not suffer sin upon him.
Lev 19:18
Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I am the LORD.



Tinka to Sister on adventtalk:

 
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  Don't want to interrupt your chapters but is Brenda still married?




Tinka to 3abn_defender on adventtalk:


 
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  I knew it was a matter of quick time here till this drew some of the "clan" out. I intend to read these documents and they very well fit in to the documents between.
    first of all I was waiting to see who it would draw out first. Now if you have a documentary that you would like to set in here I suppose you can but you see truth has it's sequence and details that just aren't pulled out of the blue.

    ..
    People in their right mind do not make up stories that the ones involved can come back and say hey, that never happened. So you see Sister is not that stupid to say someone saw DS at Brenda's without knowing who saw it in case it came to a court of law....
    Right now you are playing the devils folly unless you can better tell the story incident by incident without the heresay from DS.... Nobody would get on here and say that Brenda did a b job either if she didn't. Goodness knows why she would do a thing like that before she took care of her mouth first... Sister has every right to give what she knows even if she is getting info from LS...


That is pure trash, and lies, and there is no excuse or legit reason to even believe it, but for some sick reason Tinka always believes any garbage or evil she hears about 3ABN and never asks for or needs any evidence except for an evil report or a gossiping slanderous talebearer to speak before doing so. It's disgusting.

Anyway, This has all been addressed years ago and denied, and not one person involved in the lies and slander has presented evidence one to support anything they have claimed about Danny and Brenda, or anything else here....


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[Original Message]
From: Brenda Walsh <brendawalsh@*****>
Cc: Nick Miller <nmiller@******>; Walt Thompson
<walttmd@*****>; Danny Shelton <danshelton@******>
To: Linda Shelton <******>

Date: 2/9/2005 11:57:28 AM
Subject: Letter from BRENDA WALSH

February 9, 2005



Dear Linda,

I am writing to you because I would like you to hear the truth about some misconceptions you may have regarding my marriage to Tim. I received a call from someone who spoke with you personally, and they said that you specifically told them that Tim and I are divorced and that Danny and I were having an affair.

Here is the truth:

1. Tim and I are happily married and we are definitely NOT divorced nor are we planning a divorce. We have a loving Christ centered home and we love each other very much. We believe that God brought us together and we plan to be together till death do us part or until Jesus comes….whichever come first.

2. Your ex-husband, Danny Shelton and I have never had an affair nor are we thinking about having an affair, not in the past, present or future! I would be willing to swear in a court of law, that I have NOT had an affair with Danny or anyone else. The only person Danny has ever talked about loving was you, and I don’t believe that he has had an affair with anyone! I believe he was faithful to you the entire time you were married, both in a physical and spiritual sense.
3. As you know, Danny and I have known each other all our lives and he is like a brother to me. My mom and dad think of him as one of their sons. The ONLY man that I have romantic feelings for is my husband Tim.


I hope this sets the record straight. Now that you know the truth, I would appreciate it if you would refrain from spreading lies and rumors. Linda I love you very much and I cherish many warm and happy memories of our times spent together. We once shared a special friendship and it hurts me to think that you could even possibly think that I would be involved with your husband! Nothing could be farther from the truth! Someday I hope you will realize that I am not your enemy. I wish you only the best and I pray that someday soon when Jesus comes in the clouds of glory, that we will be neighbors together in heaven.

May God bless you,

Your sister in Christ,

Brenda


From the lawsuit filed against Bob Pickle and Gailon Joy:

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Defendants' Conspiratorial Conduct

38.
Upon information and belief, Gailon Joy and Robert Pickle are members of the Seventh Day Adventist Church and met former 3ABN director and employee Linda Shelton through their common religious affiliation.

39.
Upon information and belief, Linda Shelton has communicated to Gailon Joy and Robert Pickle statements critical of 3ABN, its board of directors, its officers and/or its employees for them to publish as her agents.
     
40.
Upon information and belief, Gailon Joy and Robert Pickle desire to see Linda Shelton reinstated as an employee and director at 3ABN and intend to discredit and damage the ministry as a means of facilitating Linda Shelton's reinstatement.
     
41.
Gailon Joy and Robert Pickle are visitors and frequent participants in various websites and chat rooms that are frequented by members of the Seventh-Day Adventist Church, where Defendants have, by electronic posting, published numerous statements related to 3ABN

[page 11]

and Danny Shelton. Joy also operates a website at "www.save3ABN.com" where he has also published numerous statements related to 3ABN and Danny Shelton. Joy also operates a website at "www.save3ABN.org" where he directs visitors to the "www.save3ABN.com" website.
     
42.
Gailon Joy and Robert Pickle have, upon information and belief, conspired, and colluded to enable, facilitate, encourage, and promote the publication and dissemination of defamatory, disparaging, and slanderous statements regarding 3ABN and its President Danny Shelton at the internet website "www.save3ABN.com," and other internet websites, wherein numerous false statements regarding 3ABN and its President Danny Shelton have been published by Defendants.
     
43.
Defendants have participated in this conspiracy by jointly authoring many or all of the published statements on "www.save3ABN.com" and by jointly authoring statements published by one or both of them on websites frequented by members of the Seventh-Day Adventist Church, such as "www.blacksda.com," "www.maritime-sda-online.org," "www.christianforum.com," and the Yahoo Prophecy Board forum.

44.
Deffendants have also participated in this conspiracy by jointly marketing, advertising, and promoting the "www.save3ABN.com" website, which they have done by posting electronic links to the website on numerous bulletin boards and websites frequented by members of the Seventh-Day Adventist Church, by mailing advertising postcards to Seventh-Day Adventist Churches across the United States directing Church Members to the "www.save3ABN.com" website, and by encouraging Internet users to visit the "www.save3ABN.com" website to "learn the truth" about 3ABN and its President Danny Shelton.

[page 12]
45.

Defendants have also participated in this conspiracy by each disseminating, distributing, and reprinting the other's published statements.

Defendants' Untrue Statements
..
50.

Gailon Joy and Robert Pickle have made numerous published untrue statements that 3ABN and its President Danny Shelton acted without grounds in removing Linda Shelton from the 3ABN Board of Directors, that Danny Shelton had no grounds for divorcing Linda Shelton, that 3ABN and Danny Shelton conspired to hide evidence and information concerning the removal and divorce, and that 3ABN and Danny Shelton have lied and made otherwise purposeful misstatements concerning the Shelton's' divorce and Danny Shelton's remarriage. Among those untrue statements made by Defendants are, inter alia, that:

[page 15]
     a.

Danny Shelton and ASI conspired to exclude Gailon Joy from participating in a fact-finding tribunal regarding Linda Shelton's divorce and removal from 3ABN.
  
    b.

Danny Shelton and ASI conspired to prevent various allegations and issues from being included in the fact-finding tribunal.   

     c.

It was Danny Shelton that participated in an extra-marital affair by becoming "involved" in "after hours activities" with 3ABN employee Brenda Walsh.
     
        d.
During his marriage to Linda Shelton, Danny Shelton had several inappropriate extra-marital relationships, of which 3ABN staff and board members were aware.

     e.
Danny Shelton was preparing to divorce Linda Shelton beginning in 2003.
     
       f.
Danny Shelton conducted an inappropriate relationship with from August 2004 until they were married in 2006, and 3ABN's officers and directors were aware of the relationship.


Pickle and Joy's response to every single specific complaint filed against them, including the above, included an acknowledgment that their were repeating here say [ gossip and defamation] and couldn't prove anything they had published was true as they did not have sufficient evidence to do so.

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"Defendants are publishing an allegation that is a restatement of a protected source or sources. Plaintiffs have been unresponsive to the allegations or have been factually challenged. Therefore, defendants are without sufficient evidence upon which to state a fact based response and request the right to supplement their response upon completion of discovery. Therefore denied."



**Pickle and Joy later stopped protecting their sources, as they indicated that they wanted to add Linda Shelton and Darrell Mundall to the case as co litigants to be sued along with them as they stated they were their main sources of information in their court filing. One can only presume Linda and Darrell did not want to step forward and defend the libel and character defamation they had caused because they couldn't. Much easier to whisper in peoples ears and let them do the dirty work and take the blame.

**Pickle also filed a document throwing sister here under the bus for her previous stories and claiming it was she who was guilty of what they were being sued for as she did it first by publishing it all on blacksda before he came on the scene.

But her stories too are based on Linda's tales.

What a mess Linda has wrought.

**I will look for the two documents I referred to above, and add them here later..

~ Cindy





1 Thessalonians 5 states:
21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. 22 Abstain from all appearance of evil.

I am shocked that you would believe such arrogance. Let me ask you this then Cindy, what about all those late nights that they were together? Sorry, but that leaves me to believe that they were up to hanky panky.

Maybe I am wrong, but I doubt it. However, I would like you to also explain Cindy or 3D, can you honestly say this is obeying 1 Thessalonians 5:22?  I look forward to your responce.

--edited to add scripture and another question--
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« Reply #73 on: July 01, 2010, 09:13:55 AM »

So let me ask this, since Danny is now divorced, yet again, is he free to remarry? This is not a question against or for Danny Shelton. However, I am simply curious. Would remarriage be supported now?


--edited for grammer--
Sister: I have had the opportunity to read these excerpts carefully, today. Below I have bolded one line that I find most troubling.


What Linda did not realize is that behind her back a “special relationship” had developed between her husband and this same “best friend”. Later Danny would admit to Linda that he had a special emotional bond with Brenda

First, I would like to ask, did Danny Shelton have an affair with Brenda Walsh? or what was the extent of their relationship?

If the answer is not completely known in that sense, theoretically, Danny is the adulterous person. Is it possible that these events was planned by Danny and maybe even Brenda to do away with Linda, so he could marry Brandy?

Just a few thoughts I had...

Well that wouldn't support the theory which has been proposed by those who claim Linda was set up. They claim Linda did not have any kind of improper relationship with the Doctor, but Danny claimed that so he would be free to marry Brandy.

Fact: Seventh-day Adventists believe adultery by one party frees the other to remarry. The adulterous one on the other hand is not free to remarry...

So Danny would not commit adultery or pretend to commit adultery to get rid of Linda, as that would have left him unable to remarry in the eyes of the Adventist church and the 3ABN board.


But the main point is Danny and Brenda both deny it, and no one can prove they did or has any evidence. Even the stories about his truck being at the quest apartment at 3ABN are only a partially based on truth. Brenda Walsh stays their only when taping shows etc. Sister says Brenda was without her husband in the guest housing, implying she was alone, she leaves out that Brenda when taping is there with her two sisters and is not alone, as they are all involved in taping the same shows. As was posted in the letter from her, they have been friends with Danny since before he even met Linda. There is nothing improper in having friends. Linda would be the first to say that.  Linda always knew during her entire marriage that Danny and Brenda were friends and had a special relationship (not sexual). She never had a problem with it nor brought it up as a problem at any time, until after she and Danny got divorced. In fact she and Brenda were also best friends, clear up until Brenda thought her relationship with the Doctor was improper and said so. and disagreed with what Linda was doing.








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Re: Excerpts from an unpublished manuscript
« Reply #74 on: July 01, 2010, 09:19:56 AM »

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Ian: "Remember when you claimed you came and went observing all at Shelton family gatherings and reporting it?"


I never made such a claim, I think I probably said something to the effect that you would not know if I were at certain events or not. Having accurate information about a situation, from more than one credible source is acceptable. And have you considered that Linda could have shared information with others who in turn became sources for me? What I have written is based upon hundreds of hours of interviews with numerous sources, sharing first person accounts, including what I personally experienced.


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