Date Set for Both Trials of Tommy Shelton

[ex3abnemployee]

No one I have seen is trying to make you afraid or intimidate you. I know I am not.

You are causing this situation yourself. If you didn't keep jumping into discussions about the court case, which is about allegations of child molestation and telling all that you have a "confession" and bringing up the importance of your "testimony" in the context of that, then no one would have to keep explaining and clarifying for others (who might be confused by your irelevant comments and claims) that:
1. You were not a victim or child molestation, and that you deny even being molested.
and
2. Your "testimony" and "confession" have nothing to do with the current case.

I said my possible testimony, and you have don't know what case I'm talking about. You're fishing for information as to whether I have been called as a witness or not. Sorry, you won't get it that easily. Plus, this is a public forum. I don't need your permission to post here.  :wave:

[Mary Sue Smith]

Duane, your ego is showing. No one cares whether you testify or not.   :oops:

[GRAT]

tinka - If I remember right the discussions of Barbara Kerr were on BSDA.  If you didn't follow them or have not gone back and read them then you probably would not know who she is.

[tinka]

thank you grat

[ex3abnemployee]

Also, Duane can want to see TS brought to justice for his crimes without hating him.  [If] TS did the crimes, then he must do the time.  That is justice and has nothing to do with how we feel about a person.  I say that, but you all know that I also get at the supporters of this site who demonize DS with every post, when he is only another child of God with issues...........like the rest of us.

Thank you, Di. You're exactly right. In fact, sometimes people have to face severe consequences before they will own up to what they did. Without repentance there can be no forgiveness. With most of the victims that I am aware of, Tommy has shown NO remorse and has in fact been quite arrogant and hateful when confronted with what he did. Do you think I want to see Tommy miss Heaven over this? If it takes jail time to make him truly make things right, then I think it's worth that.

[ex3abnemployee]

Duane, your ego is showing. No one cares whether you testify or not.   :oops:

Then why are you commenting on it? Sheesh...some of you people are really stressing over this.

[princessdi]

Refresh my memory GRAT.  Barbara Kerr is who?  The lady who eventuall went to the clinic to treat her cancer?  Or Linda's [Tripp]friend at 3ABN?      Such a cast of characters. I just can't keep up!  LOL!!

tinka - If I remember right the discussions of Barbara Kerr were on BSDA.  If you didn't follow them or have not gone back and read them then you probably would not know who she is.

[tinka]

Where you been Di, lol to keep up with all this ;)

[Johann]

Johann you know better...John Stanton was hired by the Seventh Day Adventist Conference to take over the church in springfield. His going there had nothing to do with Linda. In fact, it would have been much easier on him, I'm sure, if she wasn't a member there. The conference hired him, sent him there and paid his salary. This had absolutely nothing to do with 3abn. With you being a retired pastor you know how it works when the conference sends you somewhere so why lie about it or believe Linda's lies?

Then John Stanton must have been lying when Dr. Arild Abrahamsen and I went to see him at his home in Springfield.

You were not there so you would not know what he told us. Linda was not there.

[Bob Pickle]

They had a a prenup, again.

Don't you mean a post-nup?

[GRAT]

Refresh my memory GRAT.  Barbara Kerr is who?  The lady who eventuall went to the clinic to treat her cancer?  Or Linda's [Tripp]friend at 3ABN?      Such a cast of characters. I just can't keep up!  LOL!!

tinka - If I remember right the discussions of Barbara Kerr were on BSDA.  If you didn't follow them or have not gone back and read them then you probably would not know who she is.

Again, if I am remembering correctly BK was a little of both plus she had a cooking show on 3ABM or had made programs she wanted to be aired.  There was some issue of her getting back her tapes after Linda left.  Not sure of all the issues as my memory is not that clear.  There was a lot of stuff going around and it was some years ago.  Her mother wrote a letter that might have led some to believe that she (BK) had found something "juicy" when she was in Norway for treatment.   :hot:

[Adam]

For someone who seems to think it's ok for a grown man to have sex with a minor if the minor consents; I think you would be best to keep your mouth shut. You are a sick woman.  Your statments lend NO crediblilty at all.

Duane, your ego is showing. No one cares whether you testify or not.   :oops:

Then why are you commenting on it? Sheesh...some of you people are really stressing over this.

[tinka]

Sam,

Well, you need to understand one thing Sam, The one and only reason I am on these posts is to know truth because of "money given and for what reason It went for" I feel angry, deceived, because I knew not only what we did but the sacrifices of my family. Then when you see a bunch of hooley like what is going on it seems very hard that the devil tricked us by means we believed in. Short and simple. I do not gossip other then the posts of documents that are the facts that have been presented on here. It has been a trial to know who is protecting, who is lying, and to try to come up with some sort of truth to appease a horrible feeling of decipherment not only by us put others. Something is amiss, something is not right and all I can do is visualize what has been taken place. It is a saga that nobody should have to care about other then the fact of how this so called "money tree"  is being operated under the "clan", nondenominational claim, extravaganza lifestyle, molestations, arrests, divorces, adultery, smoking, you name it and my heart is so upset to know what my mother did without to help this mass of junk..

You are wrong to think I do not want to know what is truth. I said over and over that I knew no one personally and the "glitches come across with there own scenario of not understanding that I purposely state that so no one can say I take sides other then which side appears to be putting in the documents for truth. I absolutely hate this mess that flies under the banner of SDA when in fact it seems to be a Jimmy Swigart fiasco.

As far as Nathan goes, my heart bled immediately for whatever he was going through as soon as I read the least thing. I felt none of that should have happened. Now there is your view and now that Nathan is older to be heard Nathan's side would be another.  But on the other hand, I really wondered after reading Linda's input about her son actually choosing to leave her to go with his father would not have crushed her too.  There seems to be a situation there that does not seem kosher.  Did the son complain to the father and he seen his chance not to pay support and intice his son to come? I see many things that could have left a broken hearted mother.  It seemed to as she wrote about it. and now things were not well so he goes back home to a very busy mother that has taken much to do for worldwide view and programming. She was committed and yet from 3abn they complained of her. Still who was in charge there? It was also very possible that Nathan's did not like restrictions of worldly events. while his mother was in Christian events. What was her choice? What is Alyssa's stance on this. Does she have views? is she against her mother too? Seems she has been through quite a bit signing a document. Does she know she can be charged with perjury if lying. I just don't think she signed legal document knowing consequences of jail.

anyways because of previous interests, guess I have a right to know as all other public givers to know just what has crept into the church by way of 3abn. It is beside me for the protectors not to come up with answers. I appreciate your comments and hope you understand mine.  But if all is innocent then what in the world would be the problem of stating facts when questions are brought up instead of just getting on here and calling people liars, gossipers. All they have to do is use nouns, persons, places and or things in civil discussion stating how they witnessed it. All I see is screwy ideas that try to spin what documents say. It's just their way of avoiding what most people can visualize with their own eyes. Did you ever see such a mess as the DNA mess.

Also, I was under the understanding that there was visitation to Norway, that spurred on the onset of meeting and interest to help Nathan and first suggestion of the Dr.  I do not believe that Dr. wrote in public view the truth as he saw it in detailed sequence to lose his soul in the end at the discovery of all lies. It definitely shows that Brenda lied and the IRS records lie, and so for one thing sure, It will be known in the end. That is the power of God over evil. So you all need to quit blaming me for all your legal documents that are for public view that has been brought on by the crazy saga of 3abn. i have no reason to dispute legal documents and what has taken place and the posts are here to comment on them. so that is why it is so stupid when some come one here and say Oh, look what Tinka is gossiping about. It's all the protectors posting that brings it on after one mentions  with all emails and documents. You can state one thing and the next comes off the wall stuff that you can't even figure out where they got their view when that is not even something a person said. Happens all the time with especially 2 on her.  I see LS lost custody by her religious views and complaints. Was that a bad mom? Telling half a story makes it implying a lie by 3D.
Thanks for your reply done civil.

[tinka]

Refresh my memory GRAT.  Barbara Kerr is who?  The lady who eventuall went to the clinic to treat her cancer?  Or Linda's [Tripp]friend at 3ABN?      Such a cast of characters. I just can't keep up!  LOL!!

tinka - If I remember right the discussions of Barbara Kerr were on BSDA.  If you didn't follow them or have not gone back and read them then you probably would not know who she is.

Again, if I am remembering correctly BK was a little of both plus she had a cooking show on 3ABM or had made programs she wanted to be aired.  There was some issue of her getting back her tapes after Linda left.  Not sure of all the issues as my memory is not that clear.  There was a lot of stuff going around and it was some years ago.  Her mother wrote a letter that might have led some to believe that she (BK) had found something "juicy" when she was in Norway for treatment.   :hot:

Yep, now I remember all, and I remember the cooking program and now i know thanks grat. I knew the name and just could not remember the face.

[Mary Sue Smith]

For someone who seems to think it's ok for a grown man to have sex with a minor if the minor consents; I think you would be best to keep your mouth shut. You are a sick woman.  Your statments lend NO crediblilty at all.

Duane, your ego is showing. No one cares whether you testify or not.   :oops:

Then why are you commenting on it? Sheesh...some of you people are really stressing over this.

Just to set the record straight in as little words as possible: NO I DID NOT SAY THAT samuelthomas so you can stop repeating Pickle's LIES.  Have fun in court next month.