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Author Topic: Does Money Talk in Southern Illinois?  (Read 20734 times)

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Artiste

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Re: Does Money Talk in Southern Illinois?
« Reply #30 on: May 16, 2011, 09:01:01 PM »

A few years ago some church leadership said it wasn't a supportive ministry, then they seemed to go back on that.

It was very confusing.
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Re: Does Money Talk in Southern Illinois?
« Reply #31 on: May 17, 2011, 02:22:07 AM »

Again, there is no over all authority that tells a local Conference what to call a "supportive ministry."
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Re: Does Money Talk in Southern Illinois?
« Reply #32 on: May 17, 2011, 03:24:21 AM »

and....that is probably why a lot of wasted money and tithe missing too. But there is eventually "higher authority" to answer to. It really does take "planned detailed perception of angles" with great cleverness. It is the asset of great lawyers.
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Re: Does Money Talk in Southern Illinois?
« Reply #33 on: May 21, 2011, 08:00:27 PM »

Did you really think this would be the end? Did you notice the same judge that denied the judicial misconduct complaint then found herself on the Appellate panel? Oh, and did you notice she is the Chief Judge for the 1st Circuit?

Si Mizer...let you little mind grasp that and consider the options still available!!!

Ain't over til it's over!!!

But, since we are back to exchange, how do you explain the very pathetic way your fathers book launch was NOT handled well by 3ABN...after after all that cover-up support all those years...pretty disappointing, isn't it???

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Robert doesn't deal with reality. He does not have fact one to attempt to prove that DS has broken the 10 commandments to get TS off the hook as he claims. In fact, that claim of Pickles is false witness and itself violates the 10 commandments... The article referred to here has nothing to do with and never even suggests that payments were made before charges were made. Pickle brings that up as his black tar brush has to make everything implicate or vilificate 3ABN. That is sick, people. The article and situation doesn't mention or include 3ABN, and nothing exists to include them but fevered imaginations. Step back and disassociate yourselves from this kind of thing! Pickle, himself, has questions needing answers. Start asking them!

How about dealing with current issues and facts instead of continuing to make accusations and insinuations without merit or facts to back them? This is VERY old and stale, Robert.

Such as why have you not posted about or announced the fact that you and Joy lost your appeal? Why haven't you revealed that the Appeal court Judges concluded that there was no abuse of discretion in the district court's rulings, and affirmed the district court.? Why have you not addressed the fact that after carefully reviewing both parties submissions and the record that they concluded that your allegations of  judicial bias are without merit, and denied all your motions which were pending?

Such as why are you still soliciting funds for your defense when you haven't been a defendant for over 2 years?

Such as where is your accountability about the funds you have solicited? You and Joy claimed an accountability would be made. You personally claimed any excess funds would go to a ministry. Which ministry? Yours? Where was this all filed and reported and why would you reportedly condone a large contribution filtered through a Union Conference ministry so that a donor could remain anonymous and get a untitled and illegal tax write off? Yes, we have known for quite some time about this as it was apparently common knowledge at the time, and since then, insiders (yours), have admitted and testified about that as it bothered them. ( It is always good to see active consciences at work)

Inquiring minds want to know... and those entitled to demand answers, will...
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